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Subject: Minutes of Atlantic UBL TC call 5 October 2005
MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC MEETING 15H00 - 17H00 UTC WEDNESDAY 5 OCTOBER 2005 ATTENDANCE Jon Bosak (chair) Tony Coates Mavis Cournane Mark Crawford Michael Grimley Betty Harvey Anne Hendry Tim McGrath Zarella Rendon STANDING ITEMS Additions to the calendar: http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm TM: 14 October 2005: UBL PSC F2F, Copenhagen; 24 November 2005: UK presidency of EU Ecommerce Forum, London (MikkelB) Liaison report: TC154, UN/CEFACT Forum MarkC: Progressed CCTS, chastised OASIS for not keeping 15000 updated and not participating in CCTS. François presented the UBL update. JB/TM: Discussion with UN/CEFACT continues in a concall tomorrow; Will be presenting the results of talks with CEFACT next week. Watch the agenda. TM: UBL was invited by TBG3 to talk about TSC... very productive meeting. Have invited the members of TBG3 to reveiw the work of the TSC and have also taken on board some of their high-level models. We are looking forward to collaborating with TBG3. MarkC: The TBG17 library is done and will be released on Friday. This is the approved library, TBG CC Library Version 1.0. JB: Without public review? MarkC: Public review not required because this is not a technical specification. It doesn't even need to be approved by the TBG. The ODP [Open Development Process] only covers messages. Subcommittee report: PSC TM: Met briefly last week; at the moment, are looking at a set of issues that our new chair, Mark Leitch, has brought to the table from OGC (we were aware of that this was coming). The PSC is now going through and addressing the issues. In order to maintain the delivery schedule, the PSC is holding a F2F next week to resolve these issues. We should have final models at the end of that meeting, and then we can generate schemas. SW has been working on changes to the structure of the spreadsheets and EF configuration; she now feels she has everything she needs and just needs the time to do the work. JB: How about documentation of the spreadsheet format? TM: Will be there at the same time as the models, Friday next week. Subcommittee report: TSC TM: Met about 6 hrs ago; we have a new member, Andy Schoka, a consultant with the US Department of Transportation [USDOT]. He and his boss, Mike Onda, attended the meeting. The TSC has developed a high level data model of the components. An ongoing concern is that the four docs we identified [for transporation content in 2.0] are the most common in APEC but do not constitute a complete business process in themselves; you need more than those four. We agreed today that we would document that process but still only build the four docs and identify where they fit in the overall transport process. This is similar to the simple procurement process in UBL 1.0 vs. the extended process in UBL 2.0. We had another discussion about digital signatures; PB has made a proposal that we do not include DSs in our docs but rather a structure that allows us to reference a DS. This is not like the approach proposed by CrimsonLogic in Singapore (which is the proposal currently on the table) but is like the approach proposed by Hong Kong. We're now trying to understand the requirements from Singapore. We don't think that this will be resolved by the first CD. Team report: Catalogue TM: The distinction between "phase 1" and "phase 2" content no longer applies: due to delays in P1, Catalogue has caught up, and we now hope to finalize Catalogue content in the workshop next week and have models by the end of that week. Review of Pacific and Europe/Asia calls JB: The minutes are not avail yet. Schedule review: http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200508/msg00167.html JB: Will discuss this next week; the meeting schedule is the same as before. TM: Singapore is keen to host a meeting next year. ACTION ITEM REVIEW ACTION: JB to appeal for samples of paper documents corresponding to our new document types. Lost track of this; will send right after the meeting. ACTION: BR to contact MavisC with input from Denmark regarding minor versioning. MavisC: Got message requesting timing on customization... PB: BR has a task to follow up on this, but we don't know how far along he is. ACTION: TC members visiting NYC in October or November to check out the Sun facilities and see whether they are suitable for a UBL TC meeting. JB will be coming through in mid-November and will also check then. Pending. ACTION: MarkC to send ATG paper on CLs to MartyB and share it with the list when that becomes possible. MartyB (by mail): MarkC provided the draft of the paper 3 weeks ago; now reviewing. FOR THIS MEETING Minor versioning JB: Are we ready to start this discussion? MavisC: MarkC said we don't need minor versioning in namespaces... We have to go back to what we're saying about minor versioning and review that. ACTION: NDR editors to discuss in email; MavisC to set up the discussion for next week. Code lists From MartyB: "Need definitive set of schemas to base analysis on. Suggest you review at meeting and perhaps choose 1 that includes examples and all schemas." TC: We need example docs and then take all the noncodelist schemas and add in new stuff to verify that this works... JB: So we need the 2.0 schemas... These should be ready just after the end of next week. TM: But not the examples. We should talk with Marty Forsberg. TC: We could demonstrate the technology with UBL 1.0 schemas. (agreed) So we need to agree that we're working from the same examples. ACTION: TM to send email to get some Swedish examples that show the use of code lists (as attributes, as elements, etc.). From MartyB: "Need to complete set of code list approach documents -- XML and SCH (pretty far along). Need to provide list of those documents that UBL will standardize, and, which are examples left to the user." TC: MartyB wants to add a section on what the SCH schemas look like, the genericode lists look like, etc. He doesn't need to describe the genericode format (I will be producing a paper on that), just how these apply in UBL. JB: Satisfied that our required metadata is in genericode? TC: No issue in plugging them in, they are just UBL-specific items... JB: Put in as optional? TC: Will add in as optional. JB: And we will recommend as populated? TC: And in UBL will be recommended... could check in SCH. From MartyB: "Need to construct restriction and extension example using new technique based on scenario I provided in previous discussion." JB: Meaning TC or MartyB? MC [not sure whether this was Mark or Mavis]: Tony and Ken intend to work on this. (TC: Yes.) From MartyB: "Ken, are you going to resolve the version of Schematron that will be the reference for this set of code?" ??: Rick Jelliffe is back [and therefore we can make progress on this]. From MartyB: "Non-Code List: "Suggest that we construct a validation batch file, make file, or ant file that can be used to test schema implementations. It should be a simple package that contains references to all software tools to be installed and be contained in a zip file that allows anyone to run the tests in their own environment. "Tests should produce no errors or warnings using at least -- MSXML4. XERCES, XSV, ..." JB: No doubt this would be wonderful, but who's going to build this? ??: Challenge ubl-dev... OTHER MavisC: If minor versioning is out of the way, then NDR is off the critical path? (Yes) AGREED: We will make customization a focus of the January meeting in Manhattan. MarkC: We should be proactive about getting people involved in that meeting. Jon Bosak Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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