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Subject: Minutes of Pacific UBL TC call 10|11 July 2006
MINUTES OF PACIFIC UBL TC MEETING
00:30 - 02:30 UTC TUESDAY 11 JULY 2006
ATTENDANCE
Jon Bosak (chair)
G. Ken Holman
Andy Schoka
Kumar Sivaraman
Sylvia Webb
STANDING ITEMS
Additions to the calendar:
http://ibiblio.org/bosak/ubl/calendar.htm
None.
Subcommittee report: SBSC
GKH: Have opened debate on whether we can follow my proposed
customization approach, which is no longer based on XPath
files but rather on a set of schemas.
Liaison report: X12
KS: X12 is trying to develop metadata interchange for CICA.
SW: A standardized format for vendors that will allow the
exchange of data between developers and their tools.
Team report: Code Lists
GKH: TM has given me more UBL-initialized codelists.
ACTION: GKH to provide revised defaultCodeList.xsl and new
cl/ directory by the end of the week.
Subcommittee report: PSC
SW: No meetings till 7/31.
Subcommittee report: TSC
AS: Meetings start this Thursday morning (Wednesday night in
Western Hemisphere).
Review of Atlantic call
No comments.
Schedule review
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200602/msg00016.html
See below.
MONTREAL TC MEETING
Note hotel info in last Atlantic TC minutes. Make reservations now!
JB: Who's coming?
JB, staying at the Europa
GKH, staying at the Europa (Wed-Fri)
AS, probably staying at the Europa
SW cannot attend (in Europe)
PUBLIC REVIEW #2
File names (2 vs. 2.0)
GKH: Don't feel SG's justification is enough. The issue is
backwards compatibility of using xsi:schemalocation in UBL
instances. The fact that xsd ties instance to model with
xmi:schemaLocation is not a good practice, but we cannot
prevent it; embedding a schemaLocation pointing to a local
directory doesn't work anyway in a UBL context, only in a
closed system. The right way to do this is to map namespace
URIs using the XML Catalog; we should develop guidelines for
that. Note that we're not talking about version numbers in
namespace URIs but rather in file names, which should be
able to change even if the namespace stays the same. We
should deprecate the use of xsi:schemaLocation (which is not
the same as xsd:schemaLocation, which in our releases are
all relative) and show people how to use Catalog.
AS: No strong feelings about this.
SW: Would prefer to have "dot zero" and be consistent.
GKH: But note that not all software supports xml catalogs.
JB: [Recalling that Catalog was the first specification ever
developed by OASIS] It's an OASIS Standard; we should use
it.
ACTION: Everyone to review the correspondence between SG and
GKH and decide this in the Atlantic call Wednesday.
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200607/msg00037.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200607/msg00039.html
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/200607/msg00041.html
art/
JB: Move UML diagrams to UML directory?
GKH: Easier to teach if kept in art/; reserve uml/ for class
diagrams.
AGREED to keep the process diagrams in the art/ directory
(even though they happen to be UML activity diagrams).
asn/
Dependent on schemas.
cl/
cl/gc
cl/gc/cefact
cl/gc/default
cl/gc/special-purpose
cl/xsdcl
cl/xsdcl/default
cl/xsdcl/special-purpose
Ken will revise by Friday to incorporate new files from TM.
From recent minutes:
JB: We will need to provide instructions to users on how
to create their own enum-based schemas from these files
(e.g., how to set up namespace declarations).
SW: Will look into this.
SW: Still trying to figure out whether whole codelist
methodology will work.
JB: So the explanation of how to use the enums sounds like a
support package issue.
GKH: Therefore we should include these files only for
documentary purposes till the support package comes out.
SW: If you open the enum files in Spy, it complains about an
absence of namespaces.
ACTION: SW to send GKH error messages from Spy; GKH to fix
XSLT that generates the enum schemas.
doc
doc/etc
JB: May be empty for prd2.
GKH/SW/AS: Current empty doc/etc and doc/ndr did not make it
into the zip file.
doc/ndr
JB: Need the NDR checklist.
mod
mod/lib
mod/maindoc
JB: Will put in Tim's revision.
GKH: TM has been delivering all the spreadsheets in a single
directory. If divided into lib and maindoc, QDT should go
into lib.
SW: Two subdirs is fine to maintain consistency with 1.0 and
with the xsd directory.
AS: So call them mod/common and mod/maindoc.
AGREED to keep two subdirectories under mod/ but call them
mod/common and mod/maindoc.
uml
JB: Appears to be done for PRD2.
validate/
JB: Need new test instances.
ACTION: GKH to make new Order test docs (one good and two
bad).
xml (sample instances)
From two weeks ago:
SW: The problem is that we can't get the instances to
have correct names with the current naming problems; PB
is trying to get a consulting resource dedicated to doing
the instances in his absences, but haven't heard of the
outcome. No sample instances this week.
GKH: So what I'm preparing for the class Friday will be
what I'm using for the UBL tutorial in Montreal.
SW: We also needed use cases/scenarios from TM, and those
are not complete; TM is trying to decide whether to use
the office supply scenario or a new building materials
scenario.
SW: No progress that I know of.
GKH: Might have Invoice and Order by Wednesday.
SW: It's possible that Alan can generate instances
automatically if the scenarios are done.
ACTION: JB to ask Alan whether it's possible to provide
sample documents and scenarios.
xsd
xsd/common
xsd/maindoc
JB: Need another spin from new spreadsheets.
SW: Will generate another set of schemas, but still need
questions answered in Atlantic call before the extension
element can be included.
ACTION: SW to provide URLs to these questions.
xsdrt
xsdrt/common
xsdrt/maindoc
JB: Created automatically from xsd files.
PUBLIC REVIEW SCHEDULE
JB: At this point, we're about a month behind schedule.
AGREED to try for the following PRD2 delivery schedule:
Week of 10 July: Create all materials for PRD2; this assumes
that we resolve all outstanding technical questions (in
particular, those relating to file names and the extension
element) on Wednesday 12 July
Week of 17 July: Ballot the PRD2 CD
Week of 24 July: Request public review
Weeks of 31 July and 7 August: Public review
UBL TC meeting week of 14 August: process comments along
with work on the Support Package and NDR document
ACTION ITEM REVIEW
ACTION: NDR editors to look at the syntax of the QDT for
ChannelCode and tell TM whether this is a legal restriction.
Pending; this item should be moved to the Atlantic call.
ACTION: TM to talk to PB about putting the change log into a
form that will help indicate the differences between this
review package and the last one.
Done (submitted as a Word table in WD8 zip).
ACTION: TM to mail comment submitters with disposition of
comments.
Pending.
Jon Bosak
Chair, OASIS UBL TC
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