Re: [ubl] Ad-hoc meeting re: ANS status for UBL 2.1

[Roberto <roberto@javest.com>]

Hello Ken,

I comment the following point:

>not wise to go to only one national body, should we also be going to,
>say, the Northern European countries for additional acceptance?

About National Bodies in Europe (ESOs - European Standard Organizations) there is a recent *special* white paper to facilitate the endorsment (acceptance) of open standards.
In few words if an ESO recognise UBL as Standard the effect will be that UBL will be considered Standard in the whole Europe.

This is the official white paper:
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:52009DC0324:EN:NOT

This is a recent appreciation by OASIS that I think it is related:
https://www.oasis-open.org/news/pr/eu-reform

Hope this helps,
Roberto

----- Messaggio originale -----
Da: "G. Ken Holman" <gkholman@CraneSoftwrights.com>
A: "Universal Business Language" <ubl@lists.oasis-open.org>
Inviato: Mercoledì, 10 aprile 2013 18:27:04
Oggetto: [ubl] Ad-hoc meeting re: ANS status for UBL 2.1

Would interested committee members please indicate at this Doodle 
poll their availability for a short one-item agenda ad-hoc meeting 
regarding the minuted item below:

   http://doodle.com/42xzn78s3e5fz7wu

Please respond as soon as possible as one of the candidate times is 
less than 24 hours away.

Thank you for your quick action on this.

. . . . . . . . . Ken

At 2013-04-10 12:12 -0400, I wrote:
>MINUTES OF ATLANTIC UBL TC TELECONFERENCE WEDNESDAY 10 APRIL 2013 14:00UTC
>...
>ANS Status
>
>  - this was announced last week, has everyone reviewed it before this
>    week's meetings?
>
>    http://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/liaison-policy-ansi-addendum
>
>  - Ken H. approached TC Administration for guidance
>    - very supportive response has been received
>  - Pacific call comments:
>    - committee discussed our preference for running the BSR-8 comment period
>      in parallel with the OASIS 60 day membership review
>  - Atlantic calls:
>    - a number of concerns were expressed during the call
>    - OASIS and ANSI are both considered as North American and that no
>      benefit may be gained by making the effort; would non-North-American
>      countries be concerned that it is too North-American-centric?  Would
>      this jeopardize any future efforts of bringing UBL through an ISO
>      process?
>    - the ANS process should be done *after* the OASIS process is fully
>      completed and not before, because if there is negative feedback from
>      ANS members then it can be accommodated in UBL 2.2 and not delay the
>      completion of UBL 2.1;  if it is done in parallel, then the risk is
>      that one organization says "yes" and the other organization says "no"
>      and that may undermine the credibility of the organization saying "yes"
>    - not wise to go to only one national body, should we also be going to,
>      say, the Northern European countries for additional acceptance?
>    - possible perception of OASIS work being an out-sourced work source for
>      ANSI and not being independent
>  - Ken H. to convene a brief one-off single-agenda-item teleconference at a
>    time suitable for members of both Pacific and Atlantic calls to discuss
>    this issue, rather than try to get it done by email
>  - when we come to an agreement on how to proceed, Ken H. to ask TC
>    Administration for guidance on the appropriate motions and ballots and
>    any specification modifications required for the BSR-8 review


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