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Subject: Re: [virtio-dev] [PATCH v3] content: enhance device requirements for feature bits




On 06/19/2018 06:30 PM, Tiwei Bie wrote:
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:46:45PM +0200, Halil Pasic wrote:
On 06/19/2018 11:14 AM, Tiwei Bie wrote:
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 07:28:33PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
[...]
If it would be better to drop this patch,
I'm fine with dropping it. Thanks!

@Tiwei Bie
Thanks for your flexibility! What is your opinion (after considering the
arguments from my previous mail), is it better to include this patch in the spec or
is it better to drop it? Were you able to identify mistakes in my reasoning
(I mean points (1)-(12))?

Hi Halil,

I think maybe you thought too much about this proposal
(or maybe I really missed something obvious). In my
opinion, the device requirement proposed by this patch
is quite simple and straightforward:

- It's just to make the spec explicitly require that
   a certain virtio device shouldn't fail re-negotiation
   of a feature set it has successfully accepted once.

- It covers the cases of virtio device reset and system
   reset (which includes normal shutdown and start).

I think the requirement is reasonable because for a
certain virtio device, there is no reason that the
feature bits it offers will change (because it should
always offer all the features it understands). And we
are just to add a device normative to make the spec be
more explicit about that (because if a device really
changes the features it offers after a device or
system reset, something will go wrong). If the configs
of an emulated virtio device are changed, maybe we
shouldn't treat it as the same device any more, and
IMO this case is not related to this proposal.

Thanks for clarifying your position. I don't want to
usurp any more of your valuable time. I'm not convinced
but I've given up on hope to convince the opposition.

I'm giving up.

Regards,
Halil



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