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Subject: RE: [virtio-dev] [PATCH v2] virtio: Improve queue_reset polarity to match to default reset state


> From: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 11:30 AM
> 
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 02:51:36PM +0000, Parav Pandit wrote:
> >
> > > From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 7:30 AM
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > example flow:
> > > > a) 0,0 -> device init time value
> > > > b) 1,0 -> vq is enabled by driver and working
> > >
> > > Did you see my reply in V1? What's the reason for using write to
> > > clear behavior that is different from the device status?
> > >
> > > We can simply make this as 1, 1 here and let the driver write to 0
> > > to reset the virtqueue.
> > >
> > > And if we do this, the queue_enable and queue_reset are always the
> > > same, then we can simply reuse queue_enable.
> > >
> > Yes, I know we can make this work using new feature bit + single
> queue_enable register.
> > I replied that in v0 to Michael.
> 
> A bigger question in my eyes is that down the road we might want to be able to
> stop the ring without having it lose state.
> The natural interface for that seems to be writing 0 to queue enable.
Why queue_enable and not queue_reset?

to me this interface is unlikely performant and useful for such case.
When we want to pause/stop the VQ and query the state we need performant scheme, that can even work in a batch for all the VQs.
At that point programming 64 registers to pause/stop VQ without losing state and querying its indices etc won't be scalable with register interface.
I imagine a AQ (likely) or some other interface.
 
> 
> > I was not sure how drastic that would be at this point in the spec release cycle
> that Michael highlighted.
> > Hence, I proposed a minimal change fix to queue_reset register given timeline.
> 
> Well if accepted this proposal is going to delay the release anyway.  If we are
> doing a new feature then that can love alongside the one that is already in the
> spec.
I didn't quite understand your point.
This queue_reset in its current state (with/without) this proposed fix is mostly usable within the guest for dynamic VQ creation/deletion to connect to ethtool/xdp or more.

I don't see a need to delay the fix, to a larger feature that needs more than just start/stop button.


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