RE: [ws-caf] Weekly meetings?

["Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com>]

Alastair,
Unless we pick another day we cannot do 1.5 hour calls because of the
overlap with ws-rf/ws-n.
I have a feeling that other days are pretty full for most people, but
happy to consider that option as well.

Martin.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Green, Alastair J. [mailto:Alastair.Green@choreology.com] 
>Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 8:36 PM
>To: Greg Pavlik; ws-caf
>Subject: RE: [ws-caf] Weekly meetings?
>
>
>In brief, for me -- No. This would be too great an allocation 
>of time against everything else that is on.
>
>In long -- In my view more careful presentation of the issues 
>upfront, and greater allowance for general discussion would 
>abbreviate issue resolutions. The actual scenario and 
>requirements are not well understood, in my view (see the 
>scenario presentation required to clarify the optmization 
>discussion today).
>
>So one approach might be to e.g. allow two big topics to be 
>generally discussed in one meeting, and then discuss concrete 
>resolutions in the next meeting etc, based on subsequent 
>e-mail discussion. I think that the issue-driven, text-driven, 
>motion-driven (and thus RR of
>Order-driven) approach has the same defects as 
>thinking-by-code. Time on design is never wasted, and 
>premature coding is a good way of avoiding collaboration.
>
>Familiarization and scene-setting helps avoid early 
>ossification, and helps set a proper frame. For example: the 
>recent enlistment optimization discussion feels like a micro-climate. 
>
>Does the TC care about optimization, unlike WS-AT and BA? If 
>so, to what extent? Why did we jag off on this particular 
>optimization? What are the intended differences from WS-AT? 
>(What is the value proposition of WS-Acid?). 
>
>With such a change of emphasis I feel it would then be worth 
>putting 1.5 hours per call into the meetings, particularly the 
>discursive ones. I think the actual resolutions would fall out 
>more naturally. 
>
>Alastair
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Greg Pavlik [mailto:greg.pavlik@oracle.com] 
>Sent: 01 August 2005 20:15
>To: ws-caf
>Subject: [ws-caf] Weekly meetings?
>
>I'd like to see us find a way to accelerate our progress on 
>the present 
>specfication. An hour is a relatively short time to get 
>through some of 
>the complex issues with which we are grappling. An hour every 
>two weeks 
>makes it hard to drive multiple issues to closure. Would the TC be up 
>for meeting on a weekly basis?
>
>Greg
>
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