RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

[Doug Davis <dug@us.ibm.com>]

Does this mean that: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/22331/CD05.zip
is the one we're shipping?  

thanks
-Doug
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"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>

02/12/2007 08:58 AM

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To	"'Marc Goodner'" <mgoodner@microsoft.com>, Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
cc	"'Mary McRae'" <marypmcrae@gmail.com>, <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>, "'Robin Cover'" <robin@oasis-open.org>
Subject	RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

yes, that's fine.

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From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:39 PM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; 'Doug Davis'
Cc: 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'
Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

Can we handle that after
the PR round? If we do that after PR we can always update the various RDDL
files with that link and the CS would then point there as well. For now
I still think using the ns link we already have for the latest link is
the simplest thing we can do.
 
From: Mary McRae [mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com]
On Behalf Of Mary McRae
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:28 PM
To: Marc Goodner; 'Doug Davis'
Cc: 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Robin Cover'
Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
 
We can also invent another URI
to be used - like docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.1/wsrm-v1.1.doc etc.
- that way even if the date changes we're still talking about the latest
version of the 1.1 spec ...
 
m

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From: Marc Goodner [mailto:mgoodner@microsoft.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 9:18 PM
To: Doug Davis; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Cc: 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
So on 2, yeah we don’t have
anything like that. I think the best we can do is a link to the namespace
as that could eventually contain the previous/latest links there. The only
other immediate alternative I can think of would be the Public TC page.
 
My vote for now would be
to use the namespace. The reason is that if we progress with the same namespace
from this PR, and I’m pretty hopeful we will, then the CS will be in that
location with a link to the previous CD for the same namespace. That seems
to best satisfy the intent.
 
From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:38 PM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Cc: 'Mary McRae'; Marc Goodner; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
 

1. I'll remove the [insert...] since, as Marc said, I don't think we have
any. 
2. The guideline says: 
A bookmarkable, version-agnostic, generic URI serving as a URI alias which
is always associated with the latest/current specification instance, thus
having a changing referent; it serves to identify and directly locate each
successive published instance of a developing specification, through time
[Label: Latest Version] 
Do we have a URL like that?  As far as I know all of our URLs have
dates in them.  Can Oasis assign us a non-dated set of URLs?
3. Done - as much as I could anyway :-)

Latest zip is here: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-rx-editors/download.php/22331/CD05.zip
(you guys are probably sick of me sending huge zip files)
Will replace the individual files in the CD5 folder once people 'ok' it
but I think I still need those static URLs mentioned in #2.

thanks
-Doug
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"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>

02/11/2007 07:54 PM

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To	Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'Marc Goodner'" <mgoodner@microsoft.com>
cc	"'Mary McRae'" <marypmcrae@gmail.com>, <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

 

Before you do that ;-)
 
1. in all three spec files -- pay attention to the last para of the Notices section. It refers to OASIS' new Trademark policy. In the first line you'll see "[insert specific trademarked names, abbreviations, etc. here]" - any terms that the TC believes should be trademarked should be listed there and the boilerplate text removed.
 
2. also, for "latest version" the intent is to use a URI that will always bring up the most recent copy of the spec (see samples in naming guidelines documents). Oops - just found another bad link on the templates page.
http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateGuidelines.html section 3.4.3 or here:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/specGuidelines/namingGuidelines/metadata.html#specURIs
 
3. I apparently also messed up when I created the new templates for OO (and possibly Word). There were supposed to be two more categories on the cover page between Editors and Abstract:
Related Work
and
Declared XML Namespaces
(can be seen here: http://docs.oasis-open.org/templates/OASISSpecificationTemplateV3.0.html)
 
No penalties for not including #3, but bonus points awarded if you do ;-)
 
I'm going to go watch the Grammys ... I think you guys have it under control and we'll be all set for announcement tomorrow.
 
m

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From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 7:29 PM
To: Marc Goodner
Cc: Mary McRae; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3


Actually, I was hoping you might be able to generate new HTML by importing
it into Word  :-) 

thanks
-Doug
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Marc Goodner <mgoodner@microsoft.com>

02/11/2007 07:22 PM

 

To	Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
cc	Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>, "ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org" <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

 

Thanks for the quick turnaround on the doc Dug.  Mary, thanks a ton for staying engaged with us over the weekend.

A quick scan and this looks good to me. It looks like the correct Notices now, but I defer to Mary on that.

This one doesn’t have the HTML in it. We’re we just going to update the previous generated HTML by hand?

From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 3:17 PM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Cc: Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
 

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Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 files after decompression and cannot be scanned.
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ok - let's give this one a try.


thanks
-Doug
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"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>

02/11/2007 06:05 PM

 

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To	Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
cc	<ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
Subject	RE: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3

 

 

Almost - new Copyright line says:
Copyright © OASIS® 1993–2007. All Rights Reserved. OASIS trademark, IPR and other policies apply.

And then you'll need to make sure that it's the same in both the spec and the schema/wsdl themselves.

m

 

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From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 5:03 PM
To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Cc: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ws-rx-editors] RE: CD5.3
Importance: High


Mary, 
am I correct in assuming that if I replace:
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with just: 

<!-- Copyright (c) OASIS Open 2002-2007. All Rights Reserved. -->

That'd we'd be ok? 

thanks
-Doug
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"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com>

02/11/2007 04:47 PM

 

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To	Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org>
cc
Subject	RE: CD5.3

 

 

Hi Doug,

I haven't unzipped yet, but the schema / wsdl *do* need the Notices section that's inserted as a comment at the beginning of the files changed from the legacy IPR policy language to the 4-15-2005 policy language ... I'm willing to go the extra mile to get this out by end of day Monday since you're working hard to get everything accomplished.

Mary

 

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From: Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 10:26 AM
To: ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org
Subject: CD5.3
Importance: High

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Warning: Your file, CD05.zip, contains more than 32 files after decompression and cannot be scanned.
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Editors:
Here's CD5.3 with the changes Mary wanted.  I did not update the schema/wsdl as that was just a suggestion and I wanted to keep the diffs as small as possible.
Take a look and see if all looks well.


thanks
-Doug
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