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Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review
I thought this might be the case. This is a new process since we last progressed, so as much help as possible will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Paul Mary McRae wrote: > Hi Paul! > > Hopefully because you're asking you don't need to worry about it, but then > again, knowing your specs, you probably do and it's a good thing you asked. ;-) > > The rules say that after a vote, the *only* things that can be changed are the > metadata on the cover and running footers. If you have cross-references to, say, > one or two other specifications that will be up for approval at the same time > (or in close proximity) you will want to actually update the reference to those > specifications once the ballots have passed. This rule allows you to do that. > > So, in WS-RM there is a normative reference: > [WS-RM Policy] OASIS WS-RX Technical Committee Draft, "Web Services > Reliable Messaging Policy Assertion( WS-RM Policy)," February 2008 > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrmp/v1.2/wsrmp.pdf > > Similarly, in WS-RMP there is a normative reference: > [WS-RM] OASIS WS-RX Technical Committee Draft, "Web Services > Reliable Messaging (WS-ReliableMessaging)," February 2008. > http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/wsrm/v1.2/wsrm.pdf > > And WS-MC cites both WS-RM and WS-RMP. > > Note that all three specs will likely progress simultaneously (this is a guess > on my part ;-) and you will, once they have been approved, want to update the > references to each say "Committee Specification" and "July 2008" (or whatever), > but you will be unable to do that unless you invoke this rule. In other words, > you can't call them CS until the vote has actually happened and passed, and you > don't want the new specs to show the old status. > > So basically when we run the CS ballots you'll want to include in the motion > reference of the dependencies. I do have some exact language which I will dig up > and forward. > > Mary > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com] >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:03 AM >> To: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >> Cc: 'Doug Davis'; 'Mary McRae'; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >> Subject: Re: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >> >> Mary >> >> What is a "Designated Cross-Reference Change"? >> >> Paul >> >> Mary McRae wrote: >>> Excellent J >>> >>> >>> >>> Just in case you missed the message - which I'm guessing you did since >>> it went to the chairs list and unless that message was passed along you >>> wouldn't've seen it - I'm now making the updates when a document gets to >>> CS or OS so you don't need to be bothered with it: >>> >>> http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/chairs/200805/msg00001.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course if you want to do them yourself I'm more than happy to have >>> you continue to do it; just trying to make all our lives a bit easier. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] >>> *Sent:* Monday, July 14, 2008 9:53 AM >>> *To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org >>> *Cc:* Mary McRae; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >>> *Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> nice catch - assuming I found the right things :-) I've updated the >>> CD and CS versions in kavi in the editor's playpen. I'm not going to >>> update the "Latest ZIP." link in the main TC area yet though. since I >>> doubt the TC members will care about that when they have the specs to >>> review. >>> >>> thanks >>> -Doug >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group >>> (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com >>> >>> *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>* >>> Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com> >>> >>> 07/14/2008 09:17 AM >>> >>> Please respond to >>> <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> To >>> >>> >>> >>> Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS >>> >>> cc >>> >>> >>> >>> <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org> >>> >>> Subject >>> >>> >>> >>> RE: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Online. Please verify that everything is okay. I found two errors and >>> corrected them, both involving the Normative Reference (first element in >>> boxed area). That's all the hint you're getting. ;-) >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> *From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] * >>> Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2008 10:19 PM* >>> To:* mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org* >>> Cc:* marypmcrae@gmail.com; mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; >>> ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org* >>> Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> >>> Can't think of anything needed from the TC so we mght as well upload >>> 'em. thanks! >>> >>> thanks >>> -Doug >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group >>> (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com >>> >>> *"Mary McRae" <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>* >>> Sent by: Mary McRae <marypmcrae@gmail.com> >>> >>> 07/11/2008 10:13 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> Please respond to >>> <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To >>> >>> >>> >>> <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>, Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, >>> <marypmcrae@gmail.com>, <ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org> >>> >>> cc >>> >>> >>> >>> Subject >>> >>> >>> >>> RE: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> OK - I ignored my own advice and looked at them anyway. While I haven't >>> checked each of the links to make sure they resolve to the proper >>> resource, content-wise they appear to be fine. Should I upload and >>> complete testing or do you need to do something TC-wise first? >>> >>> Mary >>> * >>> From:* Mary McRae [mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org] * >>> Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2008 10:04 PM* >>> To:* 'Doug Davis'; 'marypmcrae@gmail.com'; >>> 'ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org'* >>> Subject:* RE: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> Sorry Doug, >>> >>> I thought I had done this weeks ago. Apparently I can't tell the >>> difference between ws-sx, ws-tx and ws-rx. It's too late tonight for me >>> to look at them and make any reasoned comments but if you don't hear >>> from me by end of day Monday, nag again. >>> >>> Mary >>> * >>> From:* Doug Davis [mailto:dug@us.ibm.com] * >>> Sent:* Friday, July 11, 2008 8:59 PM* >>> To:* marypmcrae@gmail.com; ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org* >>> Subject:* Re: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> >>> ok people! Don't make me raise my level of nagging - it won't be >>> pretty! :-) >>> serious - can someone else look these over? We really need to update >>> our rddl pages. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> thanks >>> -Doug >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group >>> (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com >>> >>> *Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS* >>> >>> 06/18/2008 07:34 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To >>> >>> >>> >>> marypmcrae@gmail.com >>> >>> cc >>> >>> >>> >>> ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >>> >>> Subject >>> >>> >>> >>> Re: [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Mary - did you get a chance to look these over to see if they adhered to >>> the new template properly? >>> >>> thanks >>> -Doug >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group >>> (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com >>> >>> *Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS* >>> >>> 06/18/2008 03:01 PM >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> To >>> >>> >>> >>> ws-rx-editors@lists.oasis-open.org >>> >>> cc >>> >>> >>> >>> Subject >>> >>> >>> >>> [ws-rx-editors] rddl files review >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> tap tap tap is this thing on? >>> >>> thanks >>> -Doug >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group >>> (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com >>> >>> __________________ >>> >>> >>> All, >>> attached are the latest RDDL files - please look them over and see if >>> they look ok. Please make sure to look at the rddl tags too. >>> >>> >>> >>> thanks >>> -Doug >>> ______________________________________________________ >>> STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group >>> (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6905 | dug@us.ibm.com >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>> generates this mail. You may a link to this group and all your TCs in >> OASIS >>> at: >>> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php >>> [attachment "wsrmp-1.2-rddl-200702.html" deleted by Doug >>> Davis/Raleigh/IBM] [attachment "wsmc-1.1-rddl-200702.html" deleted by >>> Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM] [attachment "wsrm-1.2-rddl-200702.html" deleted >>> by Doug Davis/Raleigh/IBM] >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that >>> generates this mail. 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