Two immediate
concerns I have here.
One, I don’t
think it is right to say the AS and AD have to use RM. It is the RMS and RMD
that use RM so I think the original text is correct. I also don’t see how
this relates to the multiple endpoints via one RMS/RMD as you say below. In
that case isn’t the original text still more accurate? Still either way
this is probably splitting hairs, it doesn’t change that the assertion is
there or what it means.
Two, I don’t
think even with two different assertions we can define them to apply just to
inbound or outbound messages. I’m fairly certain that WSDL 1.1 and
WS-PolicyAttachment prevent that scoping.
From: Patil, Sanjay
[mailto:sanjay.patil@sap.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006
7:27 AM
To: Gilbert Pilz;
ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ws-rx] Gil's proposal
for i021
Thanks to Gil for making a concrete
proposal. Hopefully this leads to a discussion on the list.
I have changed the subject line to
indicate the issue number. I think folks have better memory of issue numbers
than AI numbers.
Thanks,
Sanjay
From: Gilbert
Pilz [mailto:Gilbert.Pilz@bea.com]
Sent: Tuesday, Jan 31, 2006 23:01
PM
To: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [ws-rx] RE: Action Item
#0078
In light of the
(pending) resolutions to i086 and i087 it seemed simpler to present my proposal
in the form of complete drafts of the WS-RM Policy specification. Attached are
two PDF documents. One is a clean version of what the WS-RM Policy spec would
look like with my proposed changes. The other contains change bars between my
proposal and the current editors draft of WS-RM Policy (cd-02 with Marc's clean
ups applied).
You will note that
my proposal includes the proposed resolutions to i086 and i087. There was no
simple way to present my ideas without doing this.
You may also note
that I have changed line 93 from:
"The RM policy assertion indicates that the RM Source
and RM Destination MUST use WS-ReliableMessaging [WS-RM] to ensure reliable delivery of messages."
"In general a
RM policy assertion indicates that the Application Source and Application
Destination MUST use WS-ReliableMessaging [WS-RM]
to ensure reliable delivery of messages".
I did this because
I think that policy assertions have nothing to do with sequences or the
entities that maintain them (i.e. the RMS and RMD) except that they indicate
that some, unspecified sequence may or must be used to ensure the delivery of
inbound or outbound messages. I think this confusion over endpoints (and the
policies attached to those endpoints) and sequences lay at the heart of our
difficulties with the idea of multiple endpoints with different policies
sharing the same sequence. This change may be considered by some to be the
resolution to a separate issue. If anyone has any objections I'll back it out
and go through the process of raising a separate issue and making a separate
proposal to address it.