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Subject: Re: PROPOSAL PR013 (also covers some of PR012)


Actually rereading the issue text I believe this proposal completely 
closes issue 12.

Paul

Marc Goodner wrote:
> What part of 12 does this cover and what else is needed for it?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 6:58 AM
> To: Doug Davis
> Cc: Marc Goodner; ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: PROPOSAL PR013 (also covers some of PR012)
>
> At the end of this text
> During creation of a Sequence the RM Source MAY specify the
> WS-Addressing anonymous IRI as the
> address of the AcksTo EPR for that Sequence. When the RM Source
> specifies the WS-Addressing
> anonymous IRI as the address of the AcksTo EPR, the RM Destination MUST
> Transmit any
> SequenceAcknowledgement headers for the created Sequence in a SOAP
> envelope to be Transmitted
> on the protocol binding-specific channel. Such a channel is provided by
> the context of a Received
> message containing a SOAP envelope that contains a Sequence header block
> and/or an AckRequested
> header block for that same Sequence identifier.
>
>
> Add:
> When the RM Destination receives an AckRequested header, and the ackTo
> EPR for that sequence is the WS-Addressing anonymous IRI, the RM
> Destination SHOULD respond on the protocol binding-specific channel
> provided by the Received message containing the AckRequested header block.
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Doug Davis wrote:
>   
>> Does this text in the spec cover it:
>>
>> During creation of a Sequence the RM Source MAY specify the
>> WS-Addressing anonymous IRI as the
>> address of the AcksTo EPR for that Sequence. When the RM Source
>> specifies the WS-Addressing
>> anonymous IRI as the address of the AcksTo EPR, the RM Destination
>> MUST Transmit any
>> SequenceAcknowledgement headers for the created Sequence in a SOAP
>> envelope to be Transmitted
>> on the protocol binding-specific channel. Such a channel is provided
>> by the context of a Received
>> message containing a SOAP envelope that contains a Sequence header
>> block and/or an AckRequested
>> header block for that same Sequence identifier.
>>
>> thanks
>> -Doug
>> __________________________________________________
>> STSM | Web Services Architect | IBM Software Group
>> (919) 254-6905 | IBM T/L 444-6906 | dug@us.ibm.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *Paul Fremantle <paul@wso2.com>*
>>
>> 11/16/2006 05:35 AM
>>
>>
>> To
>>       Marc Goodner <mgoodner@microsoft.com>
>> cc
>>       "ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org" <ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org>
>> Subject
>>       Re: [ws-rx] PR Issue 13 SequenceAcknowledgement protocol response for
>> AcksTo = wsa:anonymous
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not suggesting we define HTTP binding issues in our spec. I'm
>> pondering the following:
>>
>> In the case where there is an anonymous AcksTo and an AckRequested, the
>> RMD SHOULD respond with the SequenceAck on the backchannel of the
>> request that carried the AckReq.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Marc Goodner wrote:
>>     
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> We can't describe HTTP binding issues in our spec, underlying
>>>       
>> transports are simply out of scope. I don't have any issue with
>> recommending they forward this issue to a group like WS-I's RSP WG
>> where HTTP is in scope of their work.
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Paul Fremantle [mailto:paul@wso2.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:08 AM
>>> To: Marc Goodner
>>> Cc: ws-rx@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Subject: Re: [ws-rx] PR Issue 13 SequenceAcknowledgement protocol
>>>       
>> response for AcksTo = wsa:anonymous
>>     
>>> Marc
>>>
>>> In the case of AckRequested over an anon HTTP connection, I believe the
>>> RMD should respond directly. After all it doesn't know when the next
>>> HTTP connection will come in to respond on. So I think they have a point
>>> and we should state this.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Marc Goodner wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> PR Issue 13,
>>>> http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-rx/issues/pr/Issues.xml#i013 , asks if
>>>> an ack needs to be mapped to the original HTTP Response for the
>>>> message. It also suggests that maybe wsaAnonymous is not an allowed
>>>> value for acksTo and if so should be explicitly forbidden.
>>>>
>>>> I do not believe wsa:Anonymous should be barred from use in acksTo. I
>>>> think the spec is pretty clear that the only barred value is wsa:None.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think we can address the mapping of an ack in this case to the
>>>> HTTP layer as the underlying binding is out of our scope. In this case
>>>> I think the specification already allows flexibility to send an ack on
>>>> the HTTP response for the original request, or on a subsequent request
>>>> including using AckRequested.
>>>>
>>>> If everyone else agrees I suggest we provide that feedback and close
>>>> this issue with no action.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> --
>>> Paul Fremantle
>>> VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
>>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>>>
>>> http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
>>> paul@wso2.com
>>> (646) 290 8050
>>>
>>> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> --
>> Paul Fremantle
>> VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
>> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>>
>> http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
>> paul@wso2.com
>> (646) 290 8050
>>
>> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     
>
> --
> Paul Fremantle
> VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2
> OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair
>
> http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
> paul@wso2.com
> (646) 290 8050
>
> "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com
>
>
>
>   

-- 
Paul Fremantle
VP/Technology and Partnerships, WSO2 
OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair

http://bloglines.com/blog/paulfremantle
paul@wso2.com
(646) 290 8050

"Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com




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