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Subject: WS-SX TC Minutes, Mar 15 2006


WS-SX TC Minutes, Mar 15 2006

Summary of new Action items:

ACTION 2005-03-15-01 Gudge and Prateek to draft a new section "Guidance
on creating New Token Assertions and Token Assertion Extensibility" for
review by the TC.

ACTION 2005-03-15-02 Marc to version the Interop document and to store
it in an Interop scenarios document folder.

ACTION 2005-03-15-03 Gudge will reply to the thread on Issue 030 before
the Mar 22 meeting.     

1. Call to order/roll call

Present:
Jong Lee, BEA Systems, Inc.* 
Hal Lockhart, BEA Systems, Inc.* 
Denis Pilipchuk, BEA Systems, Inc.* 
Corinna Witt, BEA Systems, Inc.* 
Symon Chang, Blue Titan Software* 
Rich Levinson, Computer Associates* 
Yakov Sverdlov, Computer Associates* 
Dana Kaufman, Forum Systems, Inc.* 
Toshihiro Nishimura, Fujitsu Limited* 
Irving Reid, Hewlett-Packard* 
Greg Whitehead, Hewlett-Packard* 
Ching-Yun (C.Y.) Chao, IBM* 
Henry (Hyenvui) Chung, IBM* 
Heather Hinton, IBM* 
Kelvin Lawrence, IBM* 
Anthony Nadalin, IBM* 
Mike Lyons, Layer 7 Technologies Inc.* 
Jan Alexander, Microsoft Corporation* 
Paul Cotton, Microsoft Corporation* 
Colleen Evans, Microsoft Corporation* 
Mark Fussell, Microsoft Corporation* 
Vijay Gajjala, Microsoft Corporation* 
Marc Goodner, Microsoft Corporation* 
Martin Gudgin, Microsoft Corporation* 
Chris Kaler, Microsoft Corporation* 
Jonathan Marsh, Microsoft Corporation* 
Asir Vedamuthu, Microsoft Corporation* 
Norman Brickman, Mitre Corporation* 
Jeff Hodges, Neustar, Inc.* 
Abbie Barbi <<wssx-roster-2006.xls>> r, Nortel Networks Limited* 
Lloyd Burch, Novell* 
Steve Carter, Novell* 
Ashok Malhotra, Oracle Corporation* 
Prateek Mishra, Oracle Corporation* 
Alex Hristov, Otecia Incorporated* 
John Hughes*, PA Consulting* 
Darren Platt, Ping Identity Corporation* 
Martijn de Boer, SAP AG* 
Martin Raepple, SAP AG* 
Werner Dittmann, Siemens AG* 
Tony Gullotta, SOA Software Inc.* 
Jiandong Guo, Sun Microsystems* 
Don Adams, Tibco Software Inc.* 
Hans Granqvist, VeriSign * 
 
2. Reading/Approving minutes of last meeting (Mar 08)
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00041.html

Adopted unanimously.

3. F2F planning 
See information provided in:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200602/msg00131.html 

There were no questions about the F2F arrangements.

4. Issues list 
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/issues/Issues.xml

a) Review of action items

ai-09 - Editors to check that XPath examples in WS-SecurityPolicy are
fully namespace qualified.
Pending.
 
AI-2006-02-15-04 - Prateek to propose resolution to Issue 20 before F2F
Pending. 

AI-2006-02-15-06 - Prateek to provide additional broader scenarios for
at least WS-Trust. ETA is Mar 10. 
Pending.  New ETA is Mar 17.

AI-2006-02-15-07 - TC members to come to the April F2F with data on when
they would be ready to carry out SC/Trust interop.
Pending. 

AI-2006-03-01-03 - Werner Dittman to work with Tony Nadalin to see if it
would be useful to include Tony's UML diagram to clarify Issue 28. 
Pending.

AI-2005-03-08-01 - Prateek Mishra to respond to Jan's message re Issue
10.
DONE.  See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00044.html 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00050.html 

AI-2005-03-08-02 - Mike to provide better description(s) and a complete
proposal(s) for issue 016 and issue 017 by the F2F meeting. 
Pending.

AI-2005-03-08-03 - Werner and Gudge to work on a new proposal for Issue
27.
DONE. See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00057.html  

AI-2005-03-08-04 - Hal to provided a proposal for Issue 32 before Mar 15
meeting.
DONE.  See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00049.html   

AI-2005-03-08-05 - Frederick to provide alternative proposal for Issue
36 for the Mar 15 meeting.
Pending. 

AI-2005-03-08-06 - Jan Alexander to supply clarifying text for Issue 038
before the Mar 22 meeting.
Pending. 

AI-2005-03-08-07 - Gudge will provide text to clarify the usage of
"dialect" for Issue 40 for the Mar 15 meeting.
DONE. See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00047.html 

b) Issues in Review status

None.

c) New issues

i045   Duplicate Id attribute values in Security Context example  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00037.html

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Editors.

i046   Include BinarySecurityToken as an additional token assertion in
WS-SP 
See thread at:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00055.html  

Change status to Closed with no changes.   Prateek will open a new issue
if he thinks additional material should be added to the specification.

ACTION 2005-03-15-01 Gudge and Prateek to draft a new section "Guidance
on creating New Token Assertions and Token Assertion Extensibility" for
review by the TC.
   
i047   Does IssuedTokenOverTransport require client-side digital
signature?
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00058.html 
This issue is targeted at the Interop scenarios document.

Gudge suggested that this is a holder of key scenario.  Prateek
suggested this could be explained in the scenario text.

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Marc Goodner as editor of the
Interop scenarios.

ACTION 2005-03-15-02 Marc to version the Interop document and to store
it in an Interop scenarios document folder.
   
i048   Binding Assertions should support Operation subjects  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00059.html

Change status to Active.  Assigned to Tony G.

i049   Clarify that [Algorithm Suite] applies to message level
cryptography and NOT transport-level cryptography  
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00060.html 

Hal suggested we add text explaining the reason for this is that
transport protocol (IPSEC and SSL) already have techniques for selecting
the algorithm.

Adopted unanimously as amended.

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Editors.

i050   Clarify scope of Protection assertions 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00061.html

Adopted unanimously.

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Editors.
 
d) Active issues

i004  Paul Cotton  Transitive closure spec dependencies 
Pending. Due before F2F.
  
i008  Editors  Need well formed XML examples   
Pending.

i010  Prateek Mishra  Proof of possesion for security intermediaries   
Jan Alexander's reply is in:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00016.html

ACTION 2005-03-08-01 Prateek Mishra to respond to Jan's message re Issue
10:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00016.html
Further dialogue in:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00044.html 
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00050.html

Text proposal is adopted unanimously.

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Editors.
 
i016  Michael McIntosh  sp:SignedParts mechanism 

ACTION 2006-03-08-02 Mike to provide better description(s) and a
complete proposal(s) for issue 016 and issue 017 by the F2F meeting.
Pending. 
  
i018  Michael McIntosh  absolute XPath expressions   

ACTION 2006-03-08-02 Mike to provide better description(s) and a
complete proposal(s) for issue 016 and issue 017 by the F2F meeting. 
Pending.
  
i020   Describe minimum acceptable lengths for P_SHA1 inputs   

AI-2006-02-15-04 - Prateek to propose resolution to Issue 20 before F2F 
Pending.  

i027  Werner Dittmann  When to include a token? 

ACTION 2006-03-08-03 Werner and Gudge to work on a new proposal for
Issue 27. 
DONE. See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00057.html 

Adopted unanimously.

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Editors.

i028  Werner Dittmann  Multiple supporting tokens of the same type?

AI-2006-03-01-03 - Werner Dittman to work with Tony Nadalin to see if it
would be useful to include Tony's UML diagram to clarify Issue 28. 
Pending.
 
i030   Need a mechanism to identify token assertions   
AI-2006-03-01-04 - Werner Dittman, Tony Gillotta and Gudge will prepare
a proposal to add some text to describe how to extend token assertions
for Issue 30. 
DONE. See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00029.html   

Discussion will continue by email.  

ACTION 2005-03-15-03 Gudge will reply to the thread on Issue 030 before
the Mar 22 meeting.     
 
i031   Clarification for UsernameToken assertion 
Pending on Issue 30.  
   
i032  Hal Lockhart  WS-SP should permit Policy to specify the use of
keys derived from passwords  

ACTION 2006-03-08-04 Hal to provided a proposal for Issue 32 before Mar
15 meeting.
DONE.  See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00049.html 

Adopted unanimously.  

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Editors.   

i033  Prateek Mishra  Identify security header components that are
encrypted   
Pending email discussion since the Feb 22 meeting.

The issue email contains a proposal that needs email discussion.

i036  Frederick Hirsch  Clarify term pre-authentication

ACTION 2006-03-08-05 Frederick to provide alternative proposal for Issue
36 for the Mar 15 meeting.   
Pending.
  
i038  Frederick Hirsch  Clarify that ComputedKey optional 

ACTION 2006-03-08-06 Jan Alexander to supply clarifying text for Issue
038 before the Mar 22 meeting.
Pending.
  
i040  Prateek Mishra  What values can be carried in a
/wst:RequestSecurityToken/wst:Claims element?  

ACTION 2006-03-08-07 Gudge will provide text to clarify the usage of
"dialect" for Issue 40 for the Mar 15 meeting.
DONE. See:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ws-sx/200603/msg00047.html 

Adopted unanimously.

Change status to Pending.  Assigned to Editors.    

i044  Tony Nadalin  What is an authorization token? 

Pending email discussion. 

e) Pending Issues

I021 Correct section numbers in SP 
http://docs.oasis-open.org/ws-sx/issues/Issues.xml#i021 
Marc has provided a revised document.  See:
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/ws-sx/download.php/17050/ws
-securitypolicy-1.2-spec-ed-01-r04.doc

Change status to Review.  The TC should review this by next week.

5. Other business 

a) Updated specification documents

Chris Kaler noted that there are a lot of issues in Pending status.

Gudge offered to update the SecurityPolicy specification by Mar 29 so
that the TC can review the revised editor's draft before the F2F.  

Chris Kaler asked Gudge to check to see if Tony could update the
SecureConversation/Trust documents by the same date?

6. Adjournment 

The meeting adjourned at about 11:00am EST.

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
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