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Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 - Issue 23 Resolution


As I mentioned in my earlier mail I am traveling every week for the rest of
this month. So I can't do much. In fact I'm typing this mail during a
meeting which is why I'm not on today's call.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Francisco Curbera [mailto:curbera@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:27 AM
> To: Satish Thatte
> Cc: Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail);
> ygoland@bea.com
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> Issue 23 Resolution
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Satish,
>
> I can go next, if this ok with Yaron. On the other hand, I
> will not be able
> oto make it to today's editors call because of a conflicting
> call. Please
> let me know what is the final decision.
>
> Paco
>
>
>
>
>
>                       "Satish Thatte"
>
>
>                       <satisht@microsof        To:
> <ygoland@bea.com>, "Kartha, Neelakantan"
> <N_Kartha@stercomm.com>, "BPEL Spec
>                       t.com>                    Editing Group
> \(E-mail\)" <wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org>
>
>                                                cc:
>

>                       11/03/2003 01:37         Subject:  RE:
> [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 - Issue
> 23 Resolution
>                       AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yaron and Paco,
>
> Please decide between yourselves who wants to go first now that I am
> done for the moment.
>
> Satish
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:48 PM
> To: Satish Thatte; 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group
> (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> Issue 23 Resolution
>
> Short Answer: Yes
>
> Long Answer: A good question. I have a bunch of edits I need to make
> over the coming week in order to fully explain multi-start
> but it seems
> silly to hold on to the pen. I will make the edits off-line and then
> edit them back in to whatever version exists when I finish. I don't
> expect the sections I'm editing to radically change in the
> next week or
> two so I'm not too worried about the effort needed to do a
> manual merge.
>
>                          Yaron
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 1:56 PM
> > To: ygoland@bea.com; Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group
> > (E-mail)
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> > Issue 23 Resolution
> >
> >
> > Thanks.  Are you handing the pen back?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:16 PM
> > To: Satish Thatte; 'Kartha, Neelakantan'; 'BPEL Spec Editing Group
> > (E-mail)'
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6 -
> > Issue 23 Resolution
> >
> > Done.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:07 PM
> > > To: Kartha, Neelakantan; BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for
> Version 0.6 -
> > > Issue 23 Resolution
> > >
> > >
> > > I would add "properly configured" in the following way
> > >
> > >
> > > The set of structured activities in BPEL4WS is not intended
> > to be the
> > > minimal required set. There are cases where one activity
> can replace
> > > another. For example, the sequence activity, used to
> > > structure sequential
> > > processing, may be emulated by a properly configured  flow
> > > with additional links. The purpose in
> > > providing what are, strictly speaking, redundant activities
> > > is to make it
> > > easier for BPEL programmers to both read and write BPEL
> > > programs by making
> > > available familiar, if functionally redundant, programming
> > constructs.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The reason is to highlight that in cases where a sequence has
> > > additional links coming into it, getting the behavior to be
> > > eqwuivalent with a flow can be tricky.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Satish
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From: Kartha, Neelakantan [mailto:N_Kartha@stercomm.com]
> > > Sent: Thu 10/23/2003 12:39 PM
> > > To: BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version
> > > 0.6 - Issue 23 Resolution
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Looks good to me.
> > >
> > > Kartha
> > >
> > > (BTW, sorry I could not make it yesterday--was traveling on
> > business).
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 3:00 PM
> > > To: BPEL Spec Editing Group (E-mail)
> > > Subject: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Proposed Language for Version 0.6
> > > - Issue 23
> > > Resolution
> > >
> > >
> > > In playing around with Issue 23 I felt it could use a bit
> > of editorial
> > > cleanup. I used the exact text from the resolution in the
> > > exact position
> > > specified. My only change to the issue's text was the
> > > addition of a comma
> > > and the removal of the last part of the last sentence.
> > These are just
> > > editorial changes.
> > >
> > > I also added an additional sentence which, while
> > > non-normative, I felt would
> > > make the whole situation a lot clearer.
> > >
> > > The set of structured activities in BPEL4WS is not intended
> > to be the
> > > minimal required set. There are cases where one activity
> can replace
> > > another. For example, the sequence activity, used to
> > > structure sequential
> > > processing, may be emulated by a flow with additional links.
> > > The purpose in
> > > providing what are, strictly speaking, redundant activities
> > > is to make it
> > > easier for BPEL programmers to both read and write BPEL
> > > programs by making
> > > available familiar, if functionally redundant, programming
> > constructs.
> > >
> > >         Any comments before I check this in?
> > >
> > >                 Thanks,
> > >                                 Yaron
> > >
> > >
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