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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Re: Updated Committee Spec docs and RDDL



Hi, all,

Obviously, we got a conflicting answer from OASIS staff regarding to:

[1]
For the following URL:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/wsbpel-specification-draft.pdf
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd

we will declare them as generic URLs always point to the latest version of those documents, right?

Mary said  yes ...
[mpm] 
 
yes 
While Robin said no (?)
In my judgment as Chief Information Architect, I believe that action
("we will declare..." will violate the OASIS Naming Guidelines, and unfairly allow a request that has been explicitly denied to at least four other TC, on principled grounds.
  


In an email exchange in Dec, I was under the impression declaring those URL as generic URL always pointing to the latest BPEL 2.0 doc is a viable option (That term was even first mentioned by Robin).

Now ... I am sent back to a confused state. :-)


Thanks!


Regards,
Alex Yiu


Robin Cover wrote:
I have prepared a memo for discussion with Patrick Gannon and
Jamie Clark about the note below:

  
we will declare them as generic URLs always point to the latest version of those documents, right?
[mpm]

yes
    

In my judgment as Chief Information Architect, I believe that action
("we will declare..." will violate the OASIS Naming Guidelines, and unfairly
allow a request that has been explicitly denied to at least four other TC,
on principled grounds.

I am, of course, prepared to be over-ruled on this decision, but the
matter has not been escalated to the proper level.

More later.

- Robin Cover

  
  _____

From: Alex Yiu [mailto:alex.yiu@oracle.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:52 PM
To: Diane Jordan
Cc: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; jevdemon@microsoft.com; wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org; Alex Yiu; Martin Chapman
Subject: Re: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Re: Updated Committee Spec docs and RDDL



Hi Diane,

Thanks for the email.

Mary, other OASIS staff and others  ...

I would like to confirm that I understand how to deal with URLs:

[1]
For the following URL:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/wsbpel-specification-draft.pdf
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd

we will declare them as generic URLs always point to the latest version of those documents, right?
[mpm]

yes

[2]
And, we will copy docs previously published in PR01 to the new location
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/wsbpel-specification-draft.pdf
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd
[mpm]

yes

[3]
I am wondering whether we do the same for PR02 by keep documents for the version of PR02 also at docs.oasis-open.org.
(e.g. " http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR02/...")
[mpm]

not at this point; it would mean re-working all the files. PR02 only lives in Kavi.

[4]
I also noticed in RDDL one of previous version URL are:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd
(Note: PR01)
Some are:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd
(Note: CD01)
[mpm] '

yes, you're right - they should say "PR01" rather than "CD01"


I am wondering:
[a] what CD01 stands for? Comittee Draft?
[b] should they be "PR02" instead, because our last published version are PR02 (public review 2) before our CS01
(committee specification 1)? [I hope I got all the terms, right?]

[mpm]
CD = committee draft (CDs are to be consecutively numbered)
PR02 was not published in Kavi due to the problems with file names, etc.


All in all, I guess it is a good idea for OASIS to come up with a clear formal guidline on how to publish documents at
docs.oasis-open.org in future for TC members to follow.



Thanks!



Regards,
Alex Yiu




Diane Jordan wrote:


Mary, Thanks very much.

John and Alex, please review the rddl and let us know if you have any questions.

Mary,
As usual, I have questions for you!

*	How do we populate the specification uri's on the first page for this version and current version?  Do you do
that?    eg: Specification URIs:

This Version:
 <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.html>
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.html

 <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.doc>
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.doc

 <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.pdf>
http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.pdf

*	Again on the first page, I'm not sure why you chose the link you did for the previous verson - ie, the version
that went into the second public review that shows changes from the first public review:

h <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21574/wsbpel-specification-public_review_draft_2_diff.doc>
ttp://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21574/wsbpel-specification-public_review_draft_2_diff.doc

 <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf>
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf

The change marks might be confusing since they're not the changes versus "This Version"  but as compared with an older
version.  It seems like it would make sense to point to either the clean second public review version, or a copy of the
second public review versio with changes marked versus "This Version".  The latter is available at:
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/22037/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20d
iff%20wit%85.pdf>
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/22037/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20di
ff%20wit%85.pdfand
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21993/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20d
iff%20with%20public%20review%20%202.doc>
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21993/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20di
ff%20with%20public%20review%20%202.doc

*	How do we figure out what needs to be put in the trademark field?  I know we use the names of other
specifications done at OASIS.   Should they be there.  Howe about those approved by other org's or just published by
companies?  I guess we'd go according to the references section to identify them - does that sound right?


Regards, Diane
IBM  Emerging Internet Software Standards
drj@us.ibm.com
(919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709




"Mary McRae"  <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org>
Sent by: Mary McRae  <mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com> <marypmcrae@gmail.com>


01/31/2007 02:03 PM


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Subject
Updated Committee Spec docs and RDDL








Hi everyone,

  In order to shortcut further delays, I've taken the liberty (with Diane's okay) to update the specification with the
latest cover page(s) metadata as well as update the RDDL file. There's one new bit of metadata that was recently
approved by the Board of Directors concerning trademarks. More information can be found here:
<http://www.oasis-open.org/who/trademark.php> http://www.oasis-open.org/who/trademark.php. Note that the last paragraph
in the status section contains a field for any additional terms that should be trademarked and will need to be updated.

Regards,

Mary

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Web Services Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL)


31 January 2007


Introduction


This document describes version 2.0 of the WS-BPEL <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0>  namespace. It also contains
a directory of links to related resources using the Resource
<http://www.openhealth.org/RDDL/20040118/rddl-20040118.html> Directory Description Language (RDDL) 2.0.


Namespace URI Versioning Policy


It is the intent of the OASIS WS-BPEL Technical Committee that the WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace URI will not change
arbitrarily with each subsequent revision of the corresponding WSDL or XML Schema documents but rather change only when
a subsequent revision, published in conjunction with a Committee Specification, results in non-backwardly compatible
changes from a previously published Committee Specification.

Under this policy, the following are examples of backwards compatible changes that would not result in assignment of a
new namespace URI:

*	addition of new global element, attribute, complexType and simpleType definitions

*	addition of new operations within a WSDL portType or binding (along with the corresponding schema, message and
part definitions)

*	addition of new elements or attributes in locations covered by a previously specified wildcard

*	modifications to the pattern facet of a type definition for which the value-space of the previous definition
remains valid or for which the value-space of the preponderance of instance would remain valid

*	modifications to the cardinality of elements for which the value-space of possible instance documents conformant
to the previous revision of the schema would still be valid with regards to the revised cardinality rule


Related Resources for WS-BPEL v2.0


Normative Reference:


WS-BPEL  <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/wsbpel-v2.0.pdf> v2.0


Title:

OASIS Web Services Business Process Execution Language (WSBPEL) v2.0

Product:

wsbpel

Date:

31 January 2007

ProductVersion:

2.0

ArtifactType:

specification

Stage:

Committee Specification

Revision:

01

This version:


http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.pdf

Previous version:


http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf
<http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf>

Language:

en-us

Editors:




*	Alexandre Alves, BEA

*	Assaf Arkin, Intalio

*	Sid Askary, Nuperus

*	Ben Bloch, Systinet

*	Francisco Curbera, IBM

*	Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc.

*	Yaron Goland, BEA

*	Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc.

*	Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce

*	Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP

*	Rania Khalaf, IBM

*	Dieter König, IBM

*	Mike Marin, FileNet

*	Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte

*	Satish Thatte, Microsoft

*	Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software

*	Prasad Yendluri, webMethods

*	Alex Yiu, Oracle

Additional Formats:




*	XHTML <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.html>

*	Microsoft  <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.doc> Word 97-2003

Comments list:

Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel>

Archive:

Comments archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/>


XML Schemas for WS-BPEL v2.0:


ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd
<http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd>


Title:

Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Abstract BPEL Common Base

Product:

wsbpel

Date:

31 January 2007

ProductVersion:

2.0

ArtifactType:

schema

Stage:

Committee Specification

Revision:

01

This version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd

Previous version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd

Editors:




*	Alexandre Alves, BEA

*	Assaf Arkin, Intalio

*	Sid Askary, Nuperus

*	Ben Bloch, Systinet

*	Francisco Curbera, IBM

*	Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc.

*	Yaron Goland, BEA

*	Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc.

*	Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce

*	Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP

*	Rania Khalaf, IBM

*	Dieter König, IBM

*	Mike Marin, FileNet

*	Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte

*	Satish Thatte, Microsoft

*	Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software

*	Prasad Yendluri, webMethods

*	Alex Yiu, Oracle

Comments list:

Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel>

Archive:

Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/>


ws-bpel_executable.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd>


Title:

Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Executable Processes

Product:

wsbpel

Date:

31 January 2007

ProductVersion:

2.0

ArtifactType:

schema

Stage:

Committee Specification

Revision:

01

This version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd

Previous version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd

Editors:




*	Alexandre Alves, BEA

*	Assaf Arkin, Intalio

*	Sid Askary, Nuperus

*	Ben Bloch, Systinet

*	Francisco Curbera, IBM

*	Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc.

*	Yaron Goland, BEA

*	Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc.

*	Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce

*	Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP

*	Rania Khalaf, IBM

*	Dieter König, IBM

*	Mike Marin, FileNet

*	Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte

*	Satish Thatte, Microsoft

*	Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software

*	Prasad Yendluri, webMethods

*	Alex Yiu, Oracle

Comments list:

Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel>

Archive:

Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/>


ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd>


Title:

Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Partner Link Type

Product:

wsbpel

Date:

31 January 2007

ProductVersion:

2.0

ArtifactType:

schema

Stage:

Committee Specification

Revision:

01

This version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd

Previous version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd

Editors:




*	Alexandre Alves, BEA

*	Assaf Arkin, Intalio

*	Sid Askary, Nuperus

*	Ben Bloch, Systinet

*	Francisco Curbera, IBM

*	Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc.

*	Yaron Goland, BEA

*	Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc.

*	Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce

*	Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP

*	Rania Khalaf, IBM

*	Dieter König, IBM

*	Mike Marin, FileNet

*	Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte

*	Satish Thatte, Microsoft

*	Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software

*	Prasad Yendluri, webMethods

*	Alex Yiu, Oracle

Comments list:

Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel>

Archive:

Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/>


ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd>


Title:

Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Service Reference

Product:

wsbpel

Date:

31 January 2007

ProductVersion:

2.0

ArtifactType:

schema

Stage:

Committee Specification

Revision:

01

This version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd

Previous version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd

Editors:




*	Alexandre Alves, BEA

*	Assaf Arkin, Intalio

*	Sid Askary, Nuperus

*	Ben Bloch, Systinet

*	Francisco Curbera, IBM

*	Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc.

*	Yaron Goland, BEA

*	Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc.

*	Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce

*	Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP

*	Rania Khalaf, IBM

*	Dieter König, IBM

*	Mike Marin, FileNet

*	Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte

*	Satish Thatte, Microsoft

*	Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software

*	Prasad Yendluri, webMethods

*	Alex Yiu, Oracle

Comments list:

Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel>

Archive:

Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/>


ws-bpel_varprop.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd>


Title:

Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Variable Properties

Product:

wsbpel

Date:

31 January 2007

ProductVersion:

2.0

ArtifactType:

schema

Stage:

Committee Specification

Revision:

01

This version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd

Previous version:

http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd

Editors:




*	Alexandre Alves, BEA

*	Assaf Arkin, Intalio

*	Sid Askary, Nuperus

*	Ben Bloch, Systinet

*	Francisco Curbera, IBM

*	Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc.

*	Yaron Goland, BEA

*	Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc.

*	Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce

*	Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP

*	Rania Khalaf, IBM

*	Dieter König, IBM

*	Mike Marin, FileNet

*	Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte

*	Satish Thatte, Microsoft

*	Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software

*	Prasad Yendluri, webMethods

*	Alex Yiu, Oracle

Comments list:

Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel>

Archive:

Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/>


Related Namespaces


*	Abstract Process for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/abstract

*	Executable Process for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/executable

*	Partner Link Type for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/plnktype

*	Service Reference for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/serviceref

*	Variable Properties for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/varprop =



    



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