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Subject: Re: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Re: Updated Committee Spec docs and RDDL
Hi, all, Obviously, we got a conflicting answer from OASIS staff regarding to: [1] Mary said yes ... [mpm]While Robin said no (?) In my judgment as Chief Information Architect, I believe that action ("we will declare..." will violate the OASIS Naming Guidelines, and unfairly allow a request that has been explicitly denied to at least four other TC, on principled grounds. In an email exchange in Dec, I was under the impression declaring those URL as generic URL always pointing to the latest BPEL 2.0 doc is a viable option (That term was even first mentioned by Robin). Now ... I am sent back to a confused state. :-) Thanks! Regards, Alex Yiu Robin Cover wrote: I have prepared a memo for discussion with Patrick Gannon and Jamie Clark about the note below:we will declare them as generic URLs always point to the latest version of those documents, right? [mpm] yesIn my judgment as Chief Information Architect, I believe that action ("we will declare..." will violate the OASIS Naming Guidelines, and unfairly allow a request that has been explicitly denied to at least four other TC, on principled grounds. I am, of course, prepared to be over-ruled on this decision, but the matter has not been escalated to the proper level. More later. - Robin Cover_____ From: Alex Yiu [mailto:alex.yiu@oracle.com] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:52 PM To: Diane Jordan Cc: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org; jevdemon@microsoft.com; wsbpel-spec-edit@lists.oasis-open.org; Alex Yiu; Martin Chapman Subject: Re: [wsbpel-spec-edit] Re: Updated Committee Spec docs and RDDL Hi Diane, Thanks for the email. Mary, other OASIS staff and others ... I would like to confirm that I understand how to deal with URLs: [1] For the following URL: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/wsbpel-specification-draft.pdf http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd we will declare them as generic URLs always point to the latest version of those documents, right? [mpm] yes [2] And, we will copy docs previously published in PR01 to the new location http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/wsbpel-specification-draft.pdf http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd [mpm] yes [3] I am wondering whether we do the same for PR02 by keep documents for the version of PR02 also at docs.oasis-open.org. (e.g. " http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR02/...") [mpm] not at this point; it would mean re-working all the files. PR02 only lives in Kavi. [4] I also noticed in RDDL one of previous version URL are: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd (Note: PR01) Some are: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd (Note: CD01) [mpm] ' yes, you're right - they should say "PR01" rather than "CD01" I am wondering: [a] what CD01 stands for? Comittee Draft? [b] should they be "PR02" instead, because our last published version are PR02 (public review 2) before our CS01 (committee specification 1)? [I hope I got all the terms, right?] [mpm] CD = committee draft (CDs are to be consecutively numbered) PR02 was not published in Kavi due to the problems with file names, etc. All in all, I guess it is a good idea for OASIS to come up with a clear formal guidline on how to publish documents at docs.oasis-open.org in future for TC members to follow. Thanks! Regards, Alex Yiu Diane Jordan wrote: Mary, Thanks very much. John and Alex, please review the rddl and let us know if you have any questions. Mary, As usual, I have questions for you! * How do we populate the specification uri's on the first page for this version and current version? Do you do that? eg: Specification URIs: This Version: <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.html> http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.html <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.doc> http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.doc <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.pdf> http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.pdf * Again on the first page, I'm not sure why you chose the link you did for the previous verson - ie, the version that went into the second public review that shows changes from the first public review: h <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21574/wsbpel-specification-public_review_draft_2_diff.doc> ttp://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21574/wsbpel-specification-public_review_draft_2_diff.doc <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf The change marks might be confusing since they're not the changes versus "This Version" but as compared with an older version. It seems like it would make sense to point to either the clean second public review version, or a copy of the second public review versio with changes marked versus "This Version". The latter is available at: <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/22037/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20d iff%20wit%85.pdf> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/22037/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20di ff%20wit%85.pdfand <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21993/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20d iff%20with%20public%20review%20%202.doc> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21993/wsbpel-specification-draft%20candidate%20CD%20Jan%2025%2007%20di ff%20with%20public%20review%20%202.doc * How do we figure out what needs to be put in the trademark field? I know we use the names of other specifications done at OASIS. Should they be there. Howe about those approved by other org's or just published by companies? I guess we'd go according to the references section to identify them - does that sound right? Regards, Diane IBM Emerging Internet Software Standards drj@us.ibm.com (919)254-7221 or 8-444-7221, Mobile: 919-624-5123, Fax 845-491-5709 "Mary McRae" <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> Sent by: Mary McRae <mailto:marypmcrae@gmail.com> <marypmcrae@gmail.com> 01/31/2007 02:03 PM Please respond to <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> <mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> To Diane Jordan/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS, "'John Evdemon'" <mailto:John.Evdemon@microsoft.com> <John.Evdemon@microsoft.com> cc <mailto:wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org> <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org> Subject Updated Committee Spec docs and RDDL Hi everyone, In order to shortcut further delays, I've taken the liberty (with Diane's okay) to update the specification with the latest cover page(s) metadata as well as update the RDDL file. There's one new bit of metadata that was recently approved by the Board of Directors concerning trademarks. More information can be found here: <http://www.oasis-open.org/who/trademark.php> http://www.oasis-open.org/who/trademark.php. Note that the last paragraph in the status section contains a field for any additional terms that should be trademarked and will need to be updated. Regards, Mary --------------------------------------------------- Mary P McRae Manager of TC Administration, OASIS email: <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org web: <http://www.oasis-open.org/> www.oasis-open.org phone: 603.232.9090 OASIS Symposium: "eBusiness and Open Standards: Understanding the Facts, Fiction, and Future" 15-18 April 2007 San Diego, CA USA <http://www.oasis-open.org/events/symposium/> http://www.oasis-open.org/events/symposium/ _____ <http://www.oasis-open.org> http://www.oasis-open.org <http://www.oasis-open.org> www.oasis-open.org <http://www.oasis-open.org/who/> About OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org/about/foundational_sponsors.php> OASIS Members <http://www.oasis-open.org/join/> Join OASIS <http://www.oasis-open.org/news/> OASIS News <http://www.oasis-open.org/events/> OASIS Events <http://www.oasis-open.org/members/> Members Only <http://xml.coverpages.org/> XML Cover Pages <http://www.xml.org> XML.org Web Services Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 31 January 2007 Introduction This document describes version 2.0 of the WS-BPEL <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0> namespace. It also contains a directory of links to related resources using the Resource <http://www.openhealth.org/RDDL/20040118/rddl-20040118.html> Directory Description Language (RDDL) 2.0. Namespace URI Versioning Policy It is the intent of the OASIS WS-BPEL Technical Committee that the WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace URI will not change arbitrarily with each subsequent revision of the corresponding WSDL or XML Schema documents but rather change only when a subsequent revision, published in conjunction with a Committee Specification, results in non-backwardly compatible changes from a previously published Committee Specification. Under this policy, the following are examples of backwards compatible changes that would not result in assignment of a new namespace URI: * addition of new global element, attribute, complexType and simpleType definitions * addition of new operations within a WSDL portType or binding (along with the corresponding schema, message and part definitions) * addition of new elements or attributes in locations covered by a previously specified wildcard * modifications to the pattern facet of a type definition for which the value-space of the previous definition remains valid or for which the value-space of the preponderance of instance would remain valid * modifications to the cardinality of elements for which the value-space of possible instance documents conformant to the previous revision of the schema would still be valid with regards to the revised cardinality rule Related Resources for WS-BPEL v2.0 Normative Reference: WS-BPEL <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/wsbpel-v2.0.pdf> v2.0 Title: OASIS Web Services Business Process Execution Language (WSBPEL) v2.0 Product: wsbpel Date: 31 January 2007 ProductVersion: 2.0 ArtifactType: specification Stage: Committee Specification Revision: 01 This version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.pdf Previous version: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/21575/wsbpel-specification_public_review_draft_2_diff.pdf> Language: en-us Editors: * Alexandre Alves, BEA * Assaf Arkin, Intalio * Sid Askary, Nuperus * Ben Bloch, Systinet * Francisco Curbera, IBM * Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc. * Yaron Goland, BEA * Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc. * Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce * Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP * Rania Khalaf, IBM * Dieter König, IBM * Mike Marin, FileNet * Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte * Satish Thatte, Microsoft * Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software * Prasad Yendluri, webMethods * Alex Yiu, Oracle Additional Formats: * XHTML <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.html> * Microsoft <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/wsbpel-v2.0-CS01.doc> Word 97-2003 Comments list: Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel> Archive: Comments archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/> XML Schemas for WS-BPEL v2.0: ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd> Title: Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Abstract BPEL Common Base Product: wsbpel Date: 31 January 2007 ProductVersion: 2.0 ArtifactType: schema Stage: Committee Specification Revision: 01 This version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd Previous version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/PR01/process/abstract/ws-bpel_abstract_common_base.xsd Editors: * Alexandre Alves, BEA * Assaf Arkin, Intalio * Sid Askary, Nuperus * Ben Bloch, Systinet * Francisco Curbera, IBM * Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc. * Yaron Goland, BEA * Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc. * Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce * Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP * Rania Khalaf, IBM * Dieter König, IBM * Mike Marin, FileNet * Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte * Satish Thatte, Microsoft * Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software * Prasad Yendluri, webMethods * Alex Yiu, Oracle Comments list: Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel> Archive: Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/> ws-bpel_executable.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd> Title: Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Executable Processes Product: wsbpel Date: 31 January 2007 ProductVersion: 2.0 ArtifactType: schema Stage: Committee Specification Revision: 01 This version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd Previous version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/process/executable/ws-bpel_executable.xsd Editors: * Alexandre Alves, BEA * Assaf Arkin, Intalio * Sid Askary, Nuperus * Ben Bloch, Systinet * Francisco Curbera, IBM * Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc. * Yaron Goland, BEA * Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc. * Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce * Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP * Rania Khalaf, IBM * Dieter König, IBM * Mike Marin, FileNet * Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte * Satish Thatte, Microsoft * Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software * Prasad Yendluri, webMethods * Alex Yiu, Oracle Comments list: Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel> Archive: Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/> ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd> Title: Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Partner Link Type Product: wsbpel Date: 31 January 2007 ProductVersion: 2.0 ArtifactType: schema Stage: Committee Specification Revision: 01 This version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd Previous version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/plnktype/ws-bpel_plnktype.xsd Editors: * Alexandre Alves, BEA * Assaf Arkin, Intalio * Sid Askary, Nuperus * Ben Bloch, Systinet * Francisco Curbera, IBM * Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc. * Yaron Goland, BEA * Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc. * Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce * Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP * Rania Khalaf, IBM * Dieter König, IBM * Mike Marin, FileNet * Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte * Satish Thatte, Microsoft * Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software * Prasad Yendluri, webMethods * Alex Yiu, Oracle Comments list: Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel> Archive: Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/> ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd> Title: Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Service Reference Product: wsbpel Date: 31 January 2007 ProductVersion: 2.0 ArtifactType: schema Stage: Committee Specification Revision: 01 This version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd Previous version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/serviceref/ws-bpel_serviceref.xsd Editors: * Alexandre Alves, BEA * Assaf Arkin, Intalio * Sid Askary, Nuperus * Ben Bloch, Systinet * Francisco Curbera, IBM * Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc. * Yaron Goland, BEA * Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc. * Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce * Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP * Rania Khalaf, IBM * Dieter König, IBM * Mike Marin, FileNet * Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte * Satish Thatte, Microsoft * Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software * Prasad Yendluri, webMethods * Alex Yiu, Oracle Comments list: Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel> Archive: Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/> ws-bpel_varprop.xsd <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd> Title: Schema for OASIS Business Process Execution Language (WS-BPEL) 2.0 - Schema for Variable Properties Product: wsbpel Date: 31 January 2007 ProductVersion: 2.0 ArtifactType: schema Stage: Committee Specification Revision: 01 This version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CS01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd Previous version: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/CD01/varprop/ws-bpel_varprop.xsd Editors: * Alexandre Alves, BEA * Assaf Arkin, Intalio * Sid Askary, Nuperus * Ben Bloch, Systinet * Francisco Curbera, IBM * Mark Ford, Active Endpoints, Inc. * Yaron Goland, BEA * Alejandro Guízar, JBoss, Inc. * Neelakantan Kartha, Sterling Commerce * Canyang Kevin Liu, SAP * Rania Khalaf, IBM * Dieter König, IBM * Mike Marin, FileNet * Vinkesh Mehta, Deloitte * Satish Thatte, Microsoft * Danny van der Rijn, TIBCO Software * Prasad Yendluri, webMethods * Alex Yiu, Oracle Comments list: Submit comments <http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=wsbpel> Archive: Comments Archive <http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/wsbpel-comment/> Related Namespaces * Abstract Process for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/abstract * Executable Process for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/process/executable * Partner Link Type for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/plnktype * Service Reference for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/serviceref * Variable Properties for WS-BPEL v2.0 namespace: http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsbpel/2.0/varprop = |
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