Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion

["David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>]

Frank,

The examples are available on the TC download area
right at the bottom as a ZIP!

That's where I got them from.


http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-implement/download.php/4404/scenarios12-2.zip

Cheers, DW.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Ryan" <frank.ryan@active-endpoints.com>
To: "'David RR Webber'" <david@drrw.info>
Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion


> David,
>
> Thanks for the clarification I thought it was just something I had
> overlooked.  Would it be possible to get the BPEL and WSDL files for the
> group.  We can see if they are extensible to any of the use cases we are
> developing.  At this point I am not really interested in the tool but
> the samples maybe beneficial to the group.  Let us know if that is
> possible.
>
> On another note.  I did download the stockcheck bpel you referenced in
> one of your previous emails and found that the bpel file is invalid.  I
> am not sure if I was meant to download that still or if it was an
> earlier version.  Let me know if you want some details and I'll
> follow-up independent of the mailing list.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:16 PM
> To: Frank Ryan
> Cc: wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
>
>
> Frank,
>
> Sorry - its been one of those crazy days so far.
>
> They actually ship with the current release of VisualScript V2.0 - and
> you can download the 30 day eval' from:
>
>  http://www.visualscript.com
>
> Once you've installed it - in the Create New dialogue, click
> on BPEL, then click the 'View Examples' button - and you
> will see the 4 listed there.  Pick one - and when it opens, select the
> "Generate" icon on the tool bar - and it will build both the WSDL and
> the BPEL.  You can of course manipulate the model, the XML it generates,
> add your own flavours, and so forth from there.
>
> We also have an open offer for members of the TC/SC to
> have a full-up license to help faciltiate the TCs work.  So if you'd
> like same - I can put you in touch with Tim at Smartdraw to arrange that
> for you.
>
> Thanks, DW.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Frank Ryan" <frank.ryan@active-endpoints.com>
> To: "'David RR Webber'" <david@drrw.info>
> Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 2:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
>
>
> > David,
> >
> > I am not sure what the 4 VisualScripts are and where they might be
> > located?  I scanned my email list have not seen any mention of them.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:53 PM
> > To: John Evdemon
> > Cc: wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org
> > Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > OK - yes - that works for me.
> >
> > Good.
> >
> > We also need to discuss the VisualScript models and testing those.
> > Has anyone with a BPEL engine tested the 4 use case WSDL and BPEL
> > syntax? (That's what the 4 VisualScripts contain right now).
> >
> > Thanks, DW
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com>
> > To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
> > Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:45 PM
> > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
> >
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> > John
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:13 AM
> > > To: John Evdemon
> > > Cc: wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org
> > > Subject: Re: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > OK - I have a use case template - so I'll type the details into that
> > > later this week and post it for comment/review.   I'll share
> > > that with you before hand so you can catch anything I've missed
> > > or needs re-jigged.
> > >
> > > BTW - I've completely lost track of time and space here (been out
> > > sick
> >
> > > for a couple of days) - when is the next UC SC meeting scheduled
> > > now?
> > >
> > > Thanks, DW.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Evdemon" <jevdemon@microsoft.com>
> > > To: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
> > > Cc: <wsbpel-uc@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 12:18 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
> > >
> > >
> > > David,
> > >
> > > The IV&V scenario would be great.  Please let me know if you need
> > > any assistance on this.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: David RR Webber [mailto:david@drrw.info]
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:45 AM
> > > > To: BPEL UC list
> > > > Subject: [wsbpel-uc] Fw: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
> > > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > It suddenly hit me like a thunderbolt - duh!
> > > >
> > > > We need to add this use case as a BPEL use case, and develop the
> > > > WSDL and BPEL example of the interaction with CAM.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a transaction they want built as an example here?
> > > >
> > > > I can easily pick one I have - like the CAM template for the IV&I
> > > > BOD and then the BPEL can query the warehouse subsystem to get
> > > the
> > > > actual parts on hand data that then gets built out into the IV&I
> > > > parts availability transaction format by the CAM template.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, DW.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "David RR Webber" <david@drrw.info>
> > > > To: <ygoland@bea.com>; <edwink@collaxa.com>
> > > > Cc: "Alex Yiu" <alex.yiu@oracle.com>; "Danny van der Rijn"
> > > > <dannyv@tibco.com>; "Wsbpel@Lists. Oasis-Open. Org (E-mail)"
> > > > <wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:34 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 11 - Call for Discussion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yaron,
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > As for companion languages, for a companion language to
> > > > BPEL to be
> > > > > > useful it must be able to see and manipulate BPEL
> > > > variables. So it seems
> > > > > > reasonable to expect to be able to drop down into the
> > > > companion
> > > > > > language, manipulate the BPEL variables using the
> > > > companion language's
> > > > > > XML manipulation facilities and then pop back up into
> > > > BPEL.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is EXACTLY what I'm seeing CAM can do for you - and
> > > YES
> > > > it
> > > > > is heavily typed.  However I need a mechanism to pass the
> > > > BPEL variables
> > > > > back and forth.
> > > > >
> > > > > So in "PPT BPEL" - I'm seeing calling CAM as a webservice
> > > > via a WSDL
> > > > > binding - passing it the content of the variable area that
> > > > is the input,
> > > > and
> > > > > then getting back another variable area that is the result
> > > > as a BPEL style
> > > > > reply works right now.  You also pass CAM the template
> > > > pointer that
> > > > > contains all the rules and manipulation that you want to
> > > > occur  (that's
> > > > > what the OASIS CAM spec' details - and of course the
> > > > templates are
> > > > > all in XML).   In my PPT BPEL - this just looks like
> > > another
> > > > step
> > > > > that the BPEL engine can execute - and it calls the CAM
> > > > processor
> > > > > in the same way it interacts with another WSDL driven step
> > > > today.
> > > > >
> > > > > CAM BTW has full fault handling built-in - so it can
> > > message
> > > > and error
> > > > > however you need.  And the specification is about to be to
> > > > public
> > > > > review status in OASIS next week (vote pending) - so we
> > > > should beat
> > > > > the release date here of BPEL itself handily ; -)
> > > > >
> > > > > There's a brochure on CAM available in Kavi from the CAM
> > > TC
> > > > area
> > > > > to give you the 30,000' intro' too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, DW.
> > > > >
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