RE: [wsbpel] Human editable BPEL?

[David RR Webber - XML ebusiness <Gnosis_@compuserve.com>]

Martin,

I wish I had your confidence!   This thing is IMHO a Pandoras Box of
technical pieces that willing technical engineers have piled high.

It looks like the classic programmers fiesta - "I've had a great idea,
lets add this!  Yes, and if we're adding this, then we need this too,
but that breaks this over there, so let's add that, but hang-on, that
means we'd better think about this, because doesn't that mean
we won't be able to resolve that other thing again that we tweaked
last week already?".   "OK, let's go an get some more coffee and
pizza and look at it in the morning". "OK, I'd really like to figure out
this piece too, it would be really cool if we had that as well in there."

What's exactly missing is focus - sense of scope, understanding
of goals, knowing when its 'good enough' for intended purpose,
being able to say - "No", lets not do that yet.  Let's have a coherent
and consistent first release.

We won't know that until we've figured out the audience, focus,
problem space, exclusions, etc.

Martin the mere fact that noone is stepping forward and saying,
"Sure! We have all that!  Here it is already", means that this has
not been done and its not available.  And that should give everyone
pause - because if we cannot as a team answer clearly what this
"thing" is that's been engineered - then surely noone else is
going to tell us.

Cheers, DW.

http://drrw.net
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Message text written by "Martin Chapman"
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IMHO the requirements are pretty simple; review the 1.1 spec, fix any bugs,
resolve ambiguities, and
if you want new stuff or if you want to make radical changes propose new
requirements.
I trust the originators of the spec itself to have done the
"meta" requirements exercise, for which BPEL4WS 1.1 is the result.
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