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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Human editable BPEL?
If we are to review, fix and possibly change the BPEL spec, then I believe we need its companion requirements spec. It would be nice to know why something was put into BPEL before we attempt to change or remove it. Greg >>> "Martin Chapman" <martin.chapman@oracle.com> 6/12/2003 5:32:15 PM >>> IMHO the requirements are pretty simple; review the 1.1 spec, fix any bugs, resolve ambiguities, and if you want new stuff or if you want to make radical changes propose new requirements. I trust the originators of the spec itself to have done the "meta" requirements exercise, for which BPEL4WS 1.1 is the result. Martin. > -----Original Message----- > From: David RR Webber - XML ebusiness [mailto:Gnosis_@compuserve.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 9:34 AM > To: Yaron Y. Goland > Cc: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org > Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Human editable BPEL? > > > Yaron, > > There's another aspect to this - BPEL is it seems primarily > intended to be used internally - with only a subset of the logic > being shared externally. > > But what if that logic (that you built in your IDE GUI) is not > readable - or causes undesirable results - in the IDE GUI > of Product X - used by your partner? Or your partners > BPEL fragment causes bad results on your system? But > the models look just lovely! > > You need to look at the raw XML to figure out why - and more > to the point - interoperablity between products requires a > simpler subset. > > Broken record - if we get back to the requirements - and if > interoperability in this way is a key requirement - then > simpler syntax, and also levels of conformance, are the > way to go. > > Alternately you could just duck this whole issue by using > something like BPSS to do the external coupling across > processes. > > But we're still waiting for that unnamed graduate student to > produce for us the definative list of requirements - so we > can be crystal clear on all this. What was his name again? > > Thanks, DW. > =================================================== > Message text written by "Yaron Y. Goland" > > > I remember in the late 1980s when everyone argued that source > code was dead > and all programs would be written using UIs. > > I remember the early 1990s when everyone argued that no one would ever > directly author HTML. > > I also remember the late 1990s when everyone (myself included =( )argued > that it didn't matter if XML was human editable since everyone would use > tools. > > It's funny how often everyone is wrong. > > Just a thought, > Yaron > < > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: wsbpel-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org > For additional commands, e-mail: wsbpel-help@lists.oasis-open.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: wsbpel-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: wsbpel-help@lists.oasis-open.org
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