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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Agenda for 07-23-2003 WSBPEL Conference Call


Great ideas.  I will make sure we take this approach.  I think the issue
discussion portion of the agenda is the most important part of the call
- I want to ensure this time is used as efficiently as possible.  Thanks
for the recommendations!

JohnE

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Liu, Kevin [mailto:kevin.liu@sap.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 5:52 PM
> To: John Evdemon; 'wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org'
> Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Agenda for 07-23-2003 WSBPEL Conference Call
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Glad to see that issue discussion finally makes its way to our agenda
:).
> 
> To make sure the call time is productively used for issue discussion,
I
> would suggest we add an agenda item for tomorrow to go through the
current
> list of issues, and recruit champion(s) for each issue. As defined in
the
> issue process document section 3.3, see[1]
> 
> "The job of the champion(s) is to drive an issue to resolution. The
exact
> means of doing so typically involve e-mail threads and direct
discussion
> with interested parties but the details are left to the champion(s)."
> 
> May I volunteer to be the champion for issue 2 and issue 4 and suggest
> that we postpone the discussion of issue 4 to next call? I am not sure
if
> we can make good progress for both in one call. I would like to see
some
> traffic in the mail list first to have as many as possible questions
> clarified, and I need some time to come up with a straw man proposal
for
> the group's discussion.
> 
> In addition, we may also discuss how long in advance the list of
issues to
> be discussed in a conference calls or f2f should be made available to
the
> group. IMHO, for the champions and the group to be well prepared for a
> particular issue so productive discussions can be expected, the list
of
> issues to be discussed should be made available to the group at least
5
> days in advance given our call is every two weeks.
> 
> Best Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> [1] http://www.oasis-
> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/2628/issuesprocess.htm
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Evdemon [mailto:jevdemon@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:53 AM
> To: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: [wsbpel] Agenda for 07-23-2003 WSBPEL Conference Call
> 
> We have a WS BPEL TC conference call scheduled for Wednesday, July 23,
> from
>           08:00-11:00 Pacific time aka
>           11:00-02:00 Eastern time aka
>           15:00-18:00 UTC
>           16:00-19:00 in Ireland and the UK
>           17:00-20:00 in middle (most of) Europe
> 
> While we have allocated three hours for the call, I hope that we will
be
> able to wrap up in 2 hours or less.
> 
> USA Toll Free Number: 888-711-4576
> USA Toll Number: +1-484-630-9377
> LEADER: MS DIANE JORDAN
> PASSCODE: WS BPEL TECHNICAL COMMITTEE
> The passcode and the leader's name will be required to join the call.
> 
> If you have additions to the agenda, please email them to the TC list
> before the start of the conference call.
> 
> --------
> 
> Agenda:
> 
> 1) Accept minutes from the last conference call
> 
> 2) Nomination/volunteer to take minutes for this call
> 
> 3) Administrivia
> - Past minutes are unavailable on the WSBPEL web site.
> - Email/document access problems?
> - Other issues?
> 
> 4) Requirements and Issues Coordination subgroup report
> 
> There are 25 issues documented at:
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-reqts/download.php/2
> 638/bpel_issues1.html.  Priorities for reviewing and resolving these
> issues will be discussed by one or more members of the Requirements
and
> Issues Coordination subgroup.  A short report on plans vs. progress
will
> be presented by a member of the subgroup.  A member of the subgroup
> shall select and discuss no more than four issues that have been
> identified.
> 
> TC Members are encouraged to review the issues at
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-reqts/download.php/2
> 638/bpel_issues1.html and be prepared to discuss them on the call.
> 
> The purpose of the discussion is to brief the TC on the selected
issues
> in preparation for a vote on one or more proposed solutions (the vote
> will be delayed until our next call if no solutions are available for
> presentation to the TC).
> 
> If no one volunteers to identify issues for discussion, the following
> issues will be used:
> 
> Issue 1: Permeability of Scopes
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-reqts/download.php/2
> 638/bpel_issues1.html#Issue1
> 
> Issue 2: Sub-Functions
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-reqts/download.php/2
> 638/bpel_issues1.html#Issue2
> 
> Issue 3: Current state influence in compensation handlers
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-reqts/download.php/2
> 638/bpel_issues1.html#Issue3
> 
> Issue 4: Dynamic parallel processing
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-reqts/download.php/2
> 638/bpel_issues1.html#Issue4
> 
> 5) Use Cases subgroup report
> 
> - Report on 07-21-2003 conference call
> - Review of Use Cases under consideration (see
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-uc/download.php/2960
> /usecases.html)
> - Next steps
> 
> 6) Liaisons subgroup report
> - Rajesh Pradhan or an alternate member of the subgroup will report on
> the status of Current and Requested Liaisons:
> 
> - W3C Web Services Choreography WG (Greg Ritzinger)
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-liaisons/download.ph
>
p/2644/WSBPEL%20Liaison%20Activities%20Nominations%20Ws%20Choreography.d
> oc
> 
> - BCM (David Webber)
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-liaisons/download.ph
> p/2641/WSBPEL_LiaisonActivitiesNominationsForm-BCM.doc
> 
> - BPSS (Monica Martin)
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-liaisons/download.ph
> p/2869/WSBPEL_LiaisonActivitiesNominationsForm-BPSS_071303.doc
> 
> - CEFACT BPWG (John Evdemon)
>
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel-liaisons/download.ph
> p/2970/WSBPEL_LiaisonActivitiesNominationsForm-UNCEFACT_071503.doc
> 
> 7) Specification Editing subgroup report
> - Nothing to report at this time - it is assumed that this group will
be
> somewhat inactive until the Requirements and Issues Coordination
> subgroup reviews and the TC approves possible enhancements to the
spec.
> 
> - A member of the Specification Editing may want to explain their
> process for maintaining the specification.
> 
> 8) New Implementation subgroup
> - Based on TC discussions, it appears that a new Implementation should
> be established
> - The Implementation subgroup focuses on BPEL representation within a
> graphical (or non-graphical) environment
> - The Implementation subgroup offers vendors an opportunity to
> demonstrate their products
> - Since presentation of WSBPEL is out of scope, most (if not all) of
the
> work performed by this group shall be non-normative.
> - Persons interested in leading an Implementation subgroup should
> describe their qualifications, plans and interests in leading the
> subgroup.
> 
> 9) Additional items/new business
> 
> --------
> 
> Please contact me if you have any questions or have any
> additions/modifications to the agenda.
> 
> JohnE
> 
> 
> 
> 
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