RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 11 Your opinion requested

["Yaron Goland" <ygoland@bea.com>]

My concern is that the W3C XQUERY group is actively working on coming up
with a XUPDATE syntax. Therefore any XPATH based syntax the BPEL TC invents
to provide XUPDATE style functionality will, by definition, conflict with
the work the W3C is doing. Perhaps the BPEL TC should establish a liaison
with the W3C XQUERY folks and get them to more directly help us out?

	Yaron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Ritzinger [mailto:GRitzinger@novell.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org; dannyv@tibco.com
> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue - 11 Your opinion requested
>
>
> I prefer Proposal A, only in that it seems more complete. I don't
> understand Yaron's concern that Proposal B precludes XQuery
> since XQuery
> is an extension of XPath Version 2.0.
>
> Greg
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> >>> Danny van der Rijn <dannyv@tibco.com> 8/20/2003 1:54:47 PM >>>
> At the conference call this morning, I presented issue 11 as it has
> progressed so far.  The current state is that there are 2 proposals on
> the table, both of which are equivalent in terms of what they
> accomplish, but we don't need both of them.  The desire is that we get
> some feedback from the TC as to which avenue to pursue, so that we can
> flush out one of them, and present it to the TC for a vote.  Links to
> the issues are below.  If you have any opinon at all, please
> respond to
> this mail with AT LEAST +A/-A +B/-B so we can gauge reactions to the
> proposals.  If you want to share reasons for your opinion, that is
> welcome, too.  Note that you should take these proposals as
> partially-baked.  We plan to refine the "winning" proposal
> into one that
> is spec-worthy.
>
> On the call and in email since the summaries were posted, there has
> been some discussion.  I have linked the email point here, and I hope
> that those who expressed support for either option (I believe it was
> just Yaron, but I could be wrong) will repeat them in email for
> posterity.  Unfortunately, Chris Keller was not on the call
> at the time
> of discussion, and I was unable to present his proposal with
> the clarity
> that he would have, so the discussion may have been skewed in favor of
> my proposal.  If that occurred, it was certainly not my intention to
> bias the discussion.
>
> The hope is that we will get a sense of direction by the next
> conference call, and failing that, at the September face to face.
> Putting the issue to a Kavi ballot for a sense of direction was also
> raised (by Monica Martin?), since that would force those who cared to
> state their opinion.
>
> Issue presentation and Proposal A: Author Danny van der Rijn: Add BPEL
> elements
> Tony Andrew's "+A" mail
>
> Proposal B: Author Chris Keller: Add XPath Functions
>
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