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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 67 - Clarify semantics of serializable scopes


Yaron,

 

Perhaps I misspoke.  I thought in the context of the discussion on Issue#52, you had commented that deadlocks are already possible in BPEL 1.1, in response to my claim that internal messaging would introduce them for the first time.

 

My apologies if I mistakenly interpreted that to mean serializable scopes in BPEL 1.1 already allow deadlocks because of the locking they imply.

 

Satish

 

 


From: Yaron Goland [mailto:ygoland@bea.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:44 PM
To: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue - 67 - Clarify semantics of serializable scopes

 

I'm not sure what the issue is referring to vis a vis any comments I made. I'm not aware of serializable scopes introducing any new deadlock issues that aren't already in BPEL [1]. After all Serializable scopes are really nothing more than instructions to the thread scheduler. So in theory any behavior you could see as a result of a serializable scope could be reproduced by a sufficiently eccentric thread scheduler.

 

    Yaron

 

[1] The use of serializable scopes and links could cause deadlocks. But the authors understood this and so explicitly banned the use of links that cross serialized boundaries in section 12.5.

        

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Subject: [wsbpel] Issue - 67 - Clarify semantics of serializable scopes

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Issue - 67 - Clarify semantics of serializable scopes

Status: open
Categories: concurrency control
Date added: 24 Sep 2003
Submitter: Satish Thatte
Date submitted: 23 September 2003
Champion: Satish Thatte
Document: Language specification, section 13.6
Description: There has been some recent discussion regarding the concurrency control semantics of serializable scopes. Yaron Goland had also raised a question regarding the possibility of deadlock among serializable scopes. This section needs additional wording to clarify these issues.
Links: Ron Ten-Hove, 15 Sep 2003
Changes: 24 Sep 2003 - new issue


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