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Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of event handler


Fine with me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 3:44 PM
To: edwink@collaxa.com
Cc: Satish Thatte; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of event handler

Then unless anyone objects, I would restructure it as two different 
proposals with a common base.

arkin

Edwin Khodabakchian wrote:

>Sure. The incremental approach makes sense. 
>
>I just wanted to highlight that the 2 additional proposal seem to only
make
>sense when combined together: the purpose of the name change is to
avoid
>having an optional (messageType attributes) and to re-enforce the fact
that
>in one use of onMessage a new variable is declared and in another use
of
>onMessage it is not.
>
>Edwin
> 
>
>  
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com] 
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:53 PM
>>To: edwink@collaxa.com
>>Cc: 'Satish Thatte'; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of event handler
>>
>>If we start with one base proposal and include two additional 
>>proposals that extend the base proposal, then first we make 
>>life easier for everybody else because items 1 and 3-5 are 
>>the same.  So in a way they are voting first on items 1 and 
>>3-5, and then they vote on whether to add another change 
>>(rename onMessage to onEvent) and separately on how they want 
>>item 2 to work (from operation definition or using 
>>messageType attribute).
>>
>>It also allows us to entertain more combinations, e.g. to 
>>change onMessage to onEvent but not add messageType, or to 
>>add messageType but retain onMessage to be consistent with 
>>pick. But we can always role proposals 2 and 3 together and 
>>so both changes have to be accepted in one package.
>>
>>arkin
>>
>>
>>Edwin Khodabakchian wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Assaf,
>>>
>>>It seems that the 2 other proposals are really one 
>>>      
>>>
>>alternative proposal:
>>    
>>
>>>PROPOSAL #2 (AKA EXPLICIT TYPING)
>>>1. eventHandlers/onMessage is renamed to 
>>>      
>>>
>>eventHandler/onEvent so that we
>>    
>>
>>>  can defined an extra attribute which explicitely declares the type
>>>  of the variable
>>>
>>>2. the name of the variable is given in the 
>>>      
>>>
>>onEvent/@variable attribute
>>    
>>
>>>3. the type of the varialbe is given in the onEvent/@messageType 
>>>attribute
>>>
>>>4. the event handler activity declares a variable of that 
>>>      
>>>
>>name and type 
>>    
>>
>>>  that is scoped to the event handler activity
>>>
>>>5. Upon receipt of the input message the event handler 
>>>  assigns the input message to the variable before proceeding 
>>>  to perform the event handler activity.
>>>
>>>6. Since the variable is scoped to that activity, two 
>>>  instances of the activity (whether executed seriallly or 
>>>  concurrently) do not operate on the same variable.
>>>
>>>The motivation for explicit typing reside in enhancing readability, 
>>>type checking and consitency (see my previous email).
>>>
>>>Edwin
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com]
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:12 PM
>>>>To: Satish Thatte
>>>>Cc: edwink@collaxa.com; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of event handler
>>>>
>>>>To recap, my proposal is:
>>>>
>>>>1. The name of the variable is given in the onMessage/@variable 
>>>>attribute.
>>>>
>>>>2. The variable type is the same as the type of the input message 
>>>>defined by the operation referenced by onMessage.
>>>>
>>>>3. The event handler declares a variable of that name and 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>type that is 
>>    
>>
>>>>scoped to the event handler activity.
>>>>
>>>>4. Upon receipt of the input message the event handler assigns the 
>>>>input message to the variable before proceeding to perform 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>the event 
>>    
>>
>>>>handler activity.
>>>>
>>>>5. Since the variable is scoped to that activity, two 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>instances of the 
>>    
>>
>>>>activity (whether executed seriallly or
>>>>concurrently) do not operate on the same variable.
>>>>
>>>>One proposal was to also change the name of onMessage to onAlert. 
>>>>Another proposal was to add a messageType attribute that 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>indicates the 
>>    
>>
>>>>variable name and validate it against the operation input message 
>>>>type.
>>>>
>>>>Are we at a point where we can vote on these proposals?
>>>>
>>>>arkin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Satish Thatte wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>This is why I said "I hate to do this but .. "  :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>So, onMessage and onAlarm for both pick and event handlers,
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>and onFault
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>for fault handlers is OK with me as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Satish
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com]
>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 12:29 PM
>>>>>To: Satish Thatte
>>>>>Cc: edwink@collaxa.com; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>event handler
>>    
>>
>>>>>I would not mind covering these changes under issue 36, since we 
>>>>>already
>>>>>
>>>>>discusses them in this thread.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also like onFault better than catch, but I don't understand the 
>>>>>reason
>>>>>
>>>>>to have onMessage in pick and onEvent in fault handler. 
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>Would we still
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>call a time-event onAlarm in both cases?
>>>>>
>>>>>arkin
>>>>>
>>>>>Satish Thatte wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I see.  Your reasons are good.  This and catch would
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>otherwise be the
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>only two places where variables are declared with types 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>implicitly 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>inferred from WSDL.  Just as in the case of the 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>createInstance and 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>correlation initiation attributes, extra annotation is good
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>for static
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>checking and readability.  I would then require the type in catch 
>>>>>>handlers as well for the same reasons.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I disagree that this can be done for inputVariable etc 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>since those 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>variables are not local to an invoke/receive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I hate to do this but I have to say I like the idea of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>A.  Changing onMessage to onEvent in event handlers B.  
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>Changing catch
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>to onFault in fault handlers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I would encourage you to open a new issue unless Assaf
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>wants to fold
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>this into his proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Satish
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: Edwin Khodabakchian [mailto:edwink@collaxa.com]
>>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 12:01 PM
>>>>>>To: Satish Thatte; 'Assaf Arkin'
>>>>>>Cc: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>>>Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>event handler
>>    
>>
>>>>>>We prefer explicit eventHandler/onMessage for the following "soft"
>>>>>>reasons:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>READABILITY - It makes it easier for a person reading the
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>.bpel file
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>to determine the type of all the variable without having 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>to browse 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>through WSDL files and/or separate artifact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>TYPE CHECKING - The BPEL processor can actually perform checking
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>between
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>declared type (and how it is used in the BPEL process) 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>and the type 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>defined in the WSDL. It you change the WSDL type, the 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>compiler can 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>spot
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>inconsistency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>INCONSISTENCY - The same WSDL-based type inference that be
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>applied to
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>all inputVariable, outputVariable and variable. Which means
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>that the
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>messageType attribute of <variable> is redundant. -> there
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>is a small
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>inconsistency.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>For the following reasons we would prefer a explicit typing like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><eventHandlers>
>>>>>>	<onEvent variable="statusRequest"
>>>>>>messageType="fin:LoanProcessing"
>>>>>>...>
>>>>>>	Activity
>>>>>>	</onEvent>
>>>>>></eventHandlers>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is a rather small change:
>>>>>>1) rename onMessage to onEvent so that there is no confusion with 
>>>>>>pick/onMessage
>>>>>>2) onEvent = existing onMessage + messageType
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Edwin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: Satish Thatte [mailto:satisht@microsoft.com]
>>>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:23 AM
>>>>>>>To: edwink@collaxa.com; Assaf Arkin
>>>>>>>Cc: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>>>>Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>event handler
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>Edwin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Can you share with us why you would prefer the explicit typing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Satish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>________________________________
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Edwin Khodabakchian [mailto:edwink@collaxa.com]
>>>>>>>Sent: Thu 9/25/2003 9:58 PM
>>>>>>>To: 'Assaf Arkin'; Satish Thatte
>>>>>>>Cc: wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>>>>Subject: RE: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>event handler
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>Assaf,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you for the clarification. This solves the 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>problem. It seems 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>that the group is preferring an implicit type definition
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>inferred by
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>the WSDL rather than an explicit typing through 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>messageType. It is 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>not our preference but we can live with that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also there is a small typo: the text below should refer to 
>>>>>>>onMessage/@variable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Edwin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com]
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 9:43 PM
>>>>>>>>To: Satish Thatte
>>>>>>>>Cc: Maciej Szefler; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>event handler
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>The outline of my proposal would be:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1. The name of the variable is given in the
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>onMessage/@inputVariable
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>attribute.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. The variable type is the same as the type of the 
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>input message 
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>defined by the operation referenced by onMessage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>3. The event handler declares a variable of that name and
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>type that is
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>scoped to the event handler activity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>4. Upon receipt of the input message the event handler
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>assigns the
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>input message to the variable before proceeding to perform
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the event
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>handler activity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>5. Since the variable is scoped to that activity, two
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>instances of the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>activity (whether executed seriallly or
>>>>>>>>concurrently) do not operate on the same variable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Comments?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>arkin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Satish Thatte wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Wonderful.  Since you are the champion, you get to propose
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the solution!
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>Satish
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>From: Assaf Arkin [mailto:arkin@intalio.com]
>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 8:51 PM
>>>>>>>>>To: Satish Thatte
>>>>>>>>>Cc: Maciej Szefler; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [wsbpel] Issue 36 - Multiple instances of
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>event handler
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Satish, I perfectly agree with you.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The "copy" as I understand it requires two variables to be
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>defined. My
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>proposal was for the event handler to declare a variable
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>that is local
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>to the event handler based on the message type and assign
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the input
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>message to that variable. This does not require the
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>variable to be
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>defined in the same (or enclosing) scope as the event
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>handler. From
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I can tell this requires no change to the syntax.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>And since Satish offered the catch/faultVariable as an
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>example, I think
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>there's a general rule here that could apply in more
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>than one case.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>arkin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Satish Thatte wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Maciej,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I seem to have misunderstood what we agreed at the
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>recent F2F.  I
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thought everyone present agreed including Assaf that 
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>we need the
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>>>>*semantics* of the two syntactic variants I described
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>below.  We
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>didn't really discuss syntax in detail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Assaf, if you disagree please let us know.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Satish
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>          
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                    
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>Assaf Arkin                                          
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> 
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