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Subject: Re: [wsbpel] endpoint references


Hooray. Sounds like a good idea to me. My customers would be horrified   
to learn that I cannot sort out licensing of WS-Addressing for them and  
that this might be a requirement for WS-BPEL.

Cheers

Steve T

On 26 Jan 2004, at 14:29, Martin Chapman wrote:

> Personally I would suggest BPEL defines its own container for holding
> wsdl1.1
> Port information, after all that is all that is needed.
>
> Martin.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Evdemon [mailto:jevdemon@microsoft.com]
>> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:11 AM
>> To: Ron Ten-Hove; Martin Chapman
>> Cc: Eckenfels. Bernd; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>> Subject: RE: [wsbpel] endpoint references
>>
>>
>> How then would endpoint references be made?  Would all
>> endpoint references be treated as BPEL extensions?
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ron Ten-Hove [mailto:Ronald.Ten-Hove@Sun.COM]
>>> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 4:59 PM
>>> To: Martin Chapman
>>> Cc: 'Eckenfels. Bernd'; wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> Subject: Re: [wsbpel] endpoint references
>>>
>>> Martin,
>>>
>>>     This is an instance of issue 34 <http://www.oasis-
>>> open.org/apps/org/workgroup/wsbpel/download.php/5099/wsbpel_is
>>> sues_list.html#Issue34> , for which I am champion.
>>>
>>>     I asked OASIS management (in August) to help us, with a
>> statement
>>> of policy concerning the incorporation of proprietary
>> specifications
>>> in OASIS specifications. I have yet to receive an answer
>> (this type of
>>> policy must be crafted with due care), but it seems reasonable to
>>> assume that proprietary specifications that aren't already de facto
>>> standards will be excluded from OASIS standards. This means that
>>> references to non-standard materials, such as those you mentioned,
>>> will need to be removed as part of the resolution of issue 34.
>>>
>>>     WS-Addressing is the only proprietary spec that I'm
>> aware of that
>>> BPEL takes a direct dependency on (which in turn depends on
>> WS-Policy,
>>> which sucks in a herd of other WS- specs, most of which are
>>> proprietary, many of which cannot even be licensed!) We should
>>> certainly avoid adding new references to such specs, for we will
>>> likely have to remove them before we are done with BPEL.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Ron
>>>
>>> Martin Chapman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 	This raises a question. Since we agreed to remove
>>> references and
>>> 	dependancies to
>>> 	non-standard material such as ws-t and ws-c we should
>>> also remove references
>>> 	to
>>> 	ws-addressing, and leave snippets like below to
>>> extensions.
>>>
>>> 	Martin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 		-----Original Message-----
>>> 		From: Eckenfels. Bernd
>>> [mailto:B.Eckenfels@seeburger.de]
>>> 		Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:02 PM
>>> 		To: wsbpel-dev@yahoogroups.com;
>>> wsbpel@lists.oasis-open.org
>>> 		Subject: [wsbpel] endpoint references
>>>
>>>
>>> 		Hello,
>>>
>>> 		has anybody a valid bpel snippet, which uses an
>>> assign from a
>>> 		fixed endpoint reference to a partnerLink and then
>>> invokes
>>> 		that dynamically defined endpoint? I am curious on
>>> the
>>> 		typical usage for that feature of BPEL.
>>>
>>> 		I guess t he from looks something like:
>>>
>>> 		<sequence>
>>> 		  <assign>
>>> 		  <from>
>>> 		    <wsa:EndpointReference>
>>>
>>> <wsa:Address>http://www.newurl.com/</wsa:Address>
>>> 		    </wsa:EndpointReference>
>>> 		  </from>
>>> 		  <to partnerLink="supplier" />
>>> 		  </assign>
>>> 		  <invoke partnerLink="supplier" ... />
>>> 		</sequence>
>>>
>>> 		Mit freundlichen Grüßen
>>> 		Bernd Eckenfels
>>> 		Chief Architect
>>> 		--
>>> 		SEEBURGER AG - Edisonstr.1 , D-75015 Bretten,
>>> Germany
>>> 		Fax: +49 (0)7252 96-2400 - Phone: +49 (0)7252 96-
>>> 1256
>>>
>>>
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