Re: [wsdm] FW: Request for Permanent URL

["Ed Day" <eday@obj-sys.com>]

I would agree with Fred on this.  Our binding tool figures out what it is
parsing based on the file extension.  I don't know why the convention of
including the end filename in a URL is being done away with.  In your
example below, we would slap a ".xsd" on the end to try to make it resolve
to a file.  But what if it was a ".wsdl"?  The URL provides no information
on this.   Why force me to do some complicated dereference when you can make
it clear up front?

Regards,

Ed Day
Objective Systems, Inc.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sedukhin, Igor S" <Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com>
To: <fred.carter@amberpoint.com>; "Vambenepe, William N" <vbp@hp.com>
Cc: <Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com>; <wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:15 PM
Subject: RE: [wsdm] FW: Request for Permanent URL


> Fred,
>
> For example http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/ws/2003/03/addressing. This is good
approach.
>
> I don't think we need /mows.xsd at the end at all.
>
> I'm neutral on dots, but I would prefer not to fix the
documents/schemas/WSDLs all over again.
>
>
> -- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com)
> -- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11788
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Carter [mailto:fred.carter@amberpoint.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 9:11 PM
> To: Vambenepe, William N
> Cc: Sedukhin, Igor S; Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com; wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [wsdm] FW: Request for Permanent URL
>
> I think (hope) I'm misunderstanding something.  It seems to me to be much
preferable of schemas & wsdl's are appropriately named.  Thus, I would
assume that, say, the mows 0.5 schema would be something like
>
>     http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/mows-05/mows.xsd
>
> I think that having dots (".") in directory names can be problematic,
though I'm flexible on this.  But I would *MUCH* prefer that the schema's &
wsdl be named with that of which they are the schema or wsdl respectively,
rather than just called schema (or wsdl).
>
> This is valuable for a number of reasons.  The most important of which is
probably for folks who sometimes "work disconnected" (in the laptop sense
:-) ) -- for these situations, they probably have some directory into which
they stuff all these files & use a schemaLocation directive to work. if
there are two files named wsdl, life gets confusing.
>
> Thus, my preference would be the following
>
>      http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/mows-05/mows.xsd
>      http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/mows-05/mows.wsdl
> and
>      http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/muws-05/muws.xsd
>      http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/muws-05/muws.wsdl
>
> or something like that.  If we want to put the 05 in the names, that's OK,
though I think it's somewhat redundant with the 2004/04 part.
>
> I don't think I care much about the specifications -- indeed, they can sit
at the committee site as per usual.  It's the machine consumable parts that
we'd like to fix in space.
>
> Thus quoth Vambenepe, William N (~ 25-Mar-04 5:32 PM ~)...
>
> > Corrections in red (2 places).
> >
> > William
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     *From:* Sedukhin, Igor S [mailto:Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com]
> >     *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:44 PM
> >     *To:* Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com; wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
> >     *Subject:* RE: [wsdm] FW: Request for Permanent URL
> >
> >     Great, so the URLs that we will need are (just to reconfirm with
> >     everybody).
> >
> >     *http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/muws-0.5* - resolves to the
> >     M*U*WS spec
> >     *http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/muws-0.5/schema*
> >     *http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/mows-0.5/schema*
> >     *http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/m**o**ws-0.5*
> >     <http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/mows-0.5> - resolves to the
> >     MOWS spec
> >     *http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/muws-0.5/wsdl*
> >     *http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/2004/04/mows-0.5/wsdl*
> >
> >
> >     --* **Igor Sedukhin* .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com)
> >     --* (631) 342-4325* .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11788
> >
> >
> >
>
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> >     *From:* Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com [mailto:Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com]
> >     *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2004 1:35 PM
> >     *To:* wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
> >     *Subject:* [wsdm] FW: Request for Permanent URL
> >
> >     Here is the URL.
> >
> >     Igor, Heather, ....
> >
> >     Please send the files to me and I will get it posted.
> >
> >     Winston
> >
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >     *From:* sharon burbine [mailto:sharon.burbine@oasis-open.org]
> >     *Sent:* Thursday, March 25, 2004 12:23 PM
> >     *To:* Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com
> >     *Subject:* Re: Request for Permanent URL
> >
> >     Mr. Bumpus:
> >
> >     Here is what the path will be named for you:
> >
> >     http://docs.oasis-open.org/wsdm/
> >
> >     Please send me the files that you want uploaded including the
> >     directories and sub-directories and I'll upload them for you.
> >
> >     Sharon Burbine,
> >     Webmaster,
> >     OASIS
> >
> >
> >
> >     Winston_Bumpus@Dell.com wrote:
> >
> >>     The Web Services Distributed Management (WSDM) TC would like to a
> >>     request a permanent URL for posting WSDL, XSD and our
> >>     specifications. This is in preparation for our interoperability
> >>     testing event. We will need to be able to create sub directories
> >>     and be able to post updates to these directories.
> >>
> >>     If you have any questions please let us know.
> >>
> >>     Thanks for your help,
> >>     Winston Bumpus
> >>     Co-chair of WSDM-TC
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
> Fred Carter / AmberPoint, Inc.
>
> mailto:fred.carter@amberpoint.com
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