Re: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-0.5-20040329-with-tracking.zip uploaded

[Heather Kreger <kreger@us.ibm.com>]

William,
I didn't find 'extend a manageability property' anywhere in the text.

But I did find 'extend a manageability capability', so lets assume thats what you meant.

I was trying to say extend because is consistent with the WSDL terminology where one
interface 'extends' another , or supports everything in it plus additional operations and properties as needed.
'Is derived from' is appropriate too I guess.

So, in Heather's beady little mind, since manageability capabilities are represented as
WSDL interfaces, and WSDL interfaces extend other WSDL interfaces, then manageability
capabilities extend other manageability capabilities.

Am I making understanding this hard with the word 'extends'?

Heather Kreger
STSM, Web Services Lead Architect for SWG Emerging Technologies
Author of "Java and JMX: Building Manageable Systems"
kreger@us.ibm.com
919-543-3211 (t/l 441) cell:919-496-9572

To: "Vambenepe, William N" <vbp@hp.com>
cc: wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org, Heather Kreger/Raleigh/IBM@IBMUS
Subject: Re: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-0.5-20040329-with-tracking.zip uploaded



Hi William,

Heather's choice of language will have precedence over my suggestions here.

I think the word "extend" is intended to mean "to be derived from".
There is probably better language than "extend", or "to be derived
from".  What's the UMLish-equivalent term?  "constrain" doesn't sound
right to me.  Maybe "subtype"  but that term seems more programatic than
architectural.

Regards,

Mark


Vambenepe, William N wrote:

>I replaced with the suggested wording. I am still waiting for someone to
>explain to me what it means to "extend a manageability property".
>Heather, I believe this was your wording. Can you clarify what this
>means?
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>William
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Ellison [mailto:ellison@ieee.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:04 PM
> To: Vambenepe, William N; wsdm@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [wsdm] Groups -
>wd-wsdm-muws-0.5-20040329-with-tracking.zip uploaded
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> Manageability capabilities define resource specific properties,
>operations and events.  Details of these manageability capabilities are
>exposed by the manageable resource.
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> A manageable resource MAY also define new resource-specific
>manageability capabilities.
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> A manageable resource SHOULD extend a MUWS manageability
>capability when defining a resource-specific manageability capability
>that uses similar semantics.
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> A manageable resource is not required to extend a MUWS
>manageability capability when defining a  resource-specific
>manageability capability that uses conflicting semantics.
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