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Subject: RE: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc uploaded
That is what it depicts now: MUWS applied to various
domains. That is how that section is and was written. Therefore by your
definition it is too WSDM architecture.
MUWS defines a number of capabilities that can be used and
WSDM architecture says how to apply those capabilities to any manageable
resource in any domain.
-- Igor
Sedukhin
..
(igor.sedukhin@ca.com) From: Homayoun Pourheidari [mailto:homayoun@bea.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:29 PM To: Sedukhin, Igor S Cc: Vambenepe, William N; Mark Ellison; Wsdm (E-mail) Subject: Re: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc uploaded I think a "WSDM architecture" should depict a picture where a MUWS framework that is getting applied to various domains. Cheers, H. -- Sedukhin, Igor S wrote: This [I agree the architecture is not specific to MUWS.] contradicts [Which is why I think it makes sense to call it the MUWS architecture.] :) The change does affect a lot of wording in MOWS concepts section and I don't want to revisit it at this point. I believe it is the WSDM architecture and spec partitioning is our own internal kitchen which must not affect the reason why we have this TC in the first place! This may seem to be minor to some, but it is not to me. So I'd like to insist that we recall that change in MUWS part 1. -- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com) -- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11749 -----Original Message----- From: Vambenepe, William N [mailto:vbp@hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:05 PM To: Sedukhin, Igor S; Mark Ellison Cc: Wsdm (E-mail) Subject: RE: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc uploaded I agree the architecture is not specific to MUWS. It applies to MOWS too. It actually applies to everything that uses MUWS, including MOWS. Which is why I think it makes sense to call it the MUWS architecture. It is the architecture introduced by MUWS and used by every spec that is based on MUWS, including but not limited to MOWS. Any other opinions? At the end I don't think this materially affects the spec so it's not a big deal. I'd like to hear what others think and I'll put in the spec whatever the group likes best. William -----Original Message----- From: Sedukhin, Igor S [mailto:Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:17 PM To: Vambenepe, William N; Mark Ellison Cc: Wsdm (E-mail) Subject: RE: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc uploaded I do not agree to replace WSDM for MUWS in the concepts an architecture section. This change has been just introduced and was not in the Mark's edits. I believe that these concepts apply to all of the work and specifications produced by WSDM and are not specific to MUWS only. I'd like to recall this change. -- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com) -- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11749 -----Original Message----- From: Vambenepe, William N [mailto:vbp@hp.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 10:09 PM To: Sedukhin, Igor S; Mark Ellison Cc: Wsdm (E-mail) Subject: RE: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc uploaded In the doc I just posted (minutes before this reply came) I replaces "manageability representation" with "manageability endpoint". This seems correct to me (by our definition a manageability endpoint is specific to one resource) and avoids repeating the more heavy "implementation of a manageable resource". Let me know if someone thinks this is a problem. I second Igor's thanks to Mark for the great review. Since I expect as many corrections to Part 2 I am holding off from further work on Part 2 until I get Mark's review otherwise it will be merge hell. William -----Original Message----- From: Sedukhin, Igor S [mailto:Igor.Sedukhin@ca.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 7:04 PM To: Mark Ellison; Vambenepe, William N Cc: Wsdm (E-mail) Subject: RE: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc uploaded Great comments, Mark. Looks much better now. [resource-type-specific] I think it was actually better as [resource-specific]. Avoids introduction of unnecessary concepts early on. That is, if printer management is printer-specific or printer-type-specific, I don't know... Good that you noticed: in 5.3.1 a [manageability representation]. Where did that come from? We have never defined one in the architecture or terminology sections. I agree that this should be implementation of a manageable resource as your comment says. -- Igor Sedukhin .. (igor.sedukhin@ca.com) -- (631) 342-4325 .. 1 CA Plaza, Islandia, NY 11749 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Ellison [mailto:ellison@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:06 PM To: vbp@hp.com Cc: Wsdm (E-mail) Subject: Re: [wsdm] Groups - wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc uploaded Hi William, Here are my editoral comments for MUWS-part1. Hopefully, I'll work through part two by this time tomorrow... Regards, Mark vbp@hp.com wrote:The document wd-wsdm-muws-part1-1.0-20041118.doc has been submitted byWilliam Vambenepe (vbp@hp.com) to the OASIS Web Services Distributed Management (WSDM) TC document repository.Document Description: Part 1 has a complete draft with no pending AI or TODO. 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