RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][E902]

[Rich Thompson <richt2@us.ibm.com>]

We should be very careful about specifying the solution as a requirement.
As a requirement the standard must specify the means by which the Consumer
and Producer will communicate some reference to stateful information. The
concept of a handle is a nice clean, self-contained solution, but other
solutions might include central registries of GUIDs or even UUIDs.


                                                                                                                 
                      Alan Kropp                                                                                 
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>My question is - what is wrong with E902?

I'm unhappy with the vagueness of the second sentence: "Means by
which the Consumer gains access to the stateful connection must be well
defined."

We're hinting at something here, and rather than be coy about it, I think
we
should make a stronger statement.  Your point that the "handle" concept
seems implementation-specific is valid.  I'm open to suggestion as to how
to
express it better in the context of a requirements document.


Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: Gil Tayar [mailto:Gil.Tayar@webcollage.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 11:29 PM
To: 'Alan Kropp'; 'wsia@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: RE: [wsia][wsia-requirements][E902]


A Handle (an idea which I like) is more of an _implementation_ entity, and
not necessarily a _requirement_ entity.

My question is - what is wrong with E902?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Kropp [mailto:akropp@epicentric.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 04:49
To: 'wsia@lists.oasis-open.org'
Subject: [wsia][wsia-requirements][E902]


E902
                         The specification should support both implicit and
explicit
creation of a stateful connection between Consumers and Producers. Means by
which the Consumer gains access to the stateful connection must be well
defined. Debate: SR, GT, SA, AK, RT. Also, E903-4.

I think we can introduce the concept of a Handle:

E902
The specification should support both implicit and explicit creation of a
stateful connection between Consumers and Producers.  The Producer
signifies
that a connection is stateful by creating and returning a Handle, an opaque
reference for use by the Consumer to refer to the stateful interaction
between an End User and the Producer.

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