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Subject: [wsia] 07-12-02 Minutes for Website
OASIS Web Services for Interactive Applications Technical Committee 12 April 2002 teleconference 12:00-1:00 pm EST Minutes Attendance William Cox BEA No Graeme Riddell Bowstreet Greg Giles Cisco Srinivas Vadhri Commerce One Kirk Wilson Computer Associates No Sean Fitts Crossweave Timothy N. Jones Crossweave Peter Quintas Divine No Robert Serr Divine No Sandra Swearingen DoD No Monica Martin Drake Certivo Alan Kropp Epicentric Patel Ashish France Telecom No Aditi Karandikar France Telecom Royston Sellman HP Dan Bongard Kinzan No Charles Wiecha IBM (chair) Dan Gisolfi IBM No Ravi Konuru IBM Rich Thompson IBM Shankar Ramaswamy IBM T.V. Raman IBM No Rex Brooks individual John Kneiling individual No Kevin Brinkley Intel Michael Mahan Nokia `No Terry Cline Peregrine Systems Sasha Aicken Plumtree Stefan Beck SAP No Jeffrey C. Broberg Silverstream No Suresh Damodaran Sterling Commerce No Eilon Reshef WebCollage No Gil Tayar WebCollage Agenda 1. Roll call and minutes 2. Review of agenda for next week's Face to Face 3. Overview of Customized Use Case and Requirements. Detailed Review will take place at F2F. 4. Status update on Embedded Use Case. 5. Status update on collaboration with WSRP TC. 6. Status of liaison relationships with W3C. Meeting 12:00 roll call 12:05 review of minutes and actions from last meeting. Minutes approved. Actions all set. 12:05 Review of agenda for next week’s F2F Reviewed Agenda. Eilon will pull together requirements doc from section 7 of the Embedded Case + those from Customized. We’ll review requirements and edit them real time during the F2F, and then do the same for the Customized. action: Rich Thompson circulate latest WSXL doc (it’s been updated to reflect latest ideas in Embedded and Customized). Maybe pull the ADL topic back from Friday into the Customized discussion as that’s where it is particularly relevant. action: anyone planning to attend remotely let Charlie know so he can plan/add to capacity. 12:20 Status of Customized - Ravi In subcommittee there was some discussion of what it means to Customize, and whether that meant the Provider should do everything or the Consumer should be able to make modifications. Decided not to try to solve the implementation now but to surface the scenarios in the Use Case. ie, describe the kinds of customization instead of deciding where they are performed. So Customized and Integrated docs have merged together, it exposes application-specific properties with some description of how they can be modified. Also describes how the Consumer can intercept, view and modify the datastream between the Producer and end user. Have added notion of Producer specifying what things are allowed to be customized. In 2.2.6 have drilled down on the elements being modified to break out the kinds of Customizations. There are 3 types (Presentation, Data, Control) and 2 places (Producer and Consumer) so we’ll discuss at the F2F whether that 3x2 discussion of customization makes sense. Q: Is there an Event discussion? A: No, just actions. It’s an extension of the actions in the Embedded Case. 12:40 Status of Embedded Rich, Alan Flushing out section 7 and adding pointers to Eilon’s requirements doc. There’s a WSRP/WSIA joint interfaces telecon at 11 EST on Monday to review the requirements and make sure they sync with what WSRP is doing. Q: Should WSRP-related requirements take priority now? A: Probably, in order to hit the draft spec goal in July, but we shouldn’t let it stop us going in a direction if we feel that’s what we need to do. 12:40 WSRP Collaboration - Alan Getting into rich discussions in Protocols & Interfaces, trying to pull that into the Embedded Case without allowing it to get too portlet specific. Haven’t seen anything yet that is divergent from what we’re doing. Initial feeling was that it might make the Embedded Case too complex. WSRP is probably bigger than Embedded and overlaps Customized. We should probably discuss this next week. Alan is leading the liaison with WSRP and understanding this commonality. June 24-27 will be the back-to-back WSRP and WSIA at Oracle’s facilities in San Francisco. 12:45 W3C relationships Karl asked Charlie to liaise with the W3C Web Services Working Group. There will be someone from WSRP nominated too. Will probably be looking for more liaisons (eg, XForms?) and looking for volunteers for that. Can raise this at the F2F. 12:50 adjourn. --
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