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Subject: Fw: [wsrf] Fwd: WS-addressing reference in WSRF-RP
Hiro Kishimoto <hiro.kishimoto@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote on 06/21/2005 06:27:23 PM: > Thanks Tom, > > If that is W3C's naming convention (no number for 1.0 but with number > for 1.x and 2.x), I am ok with "http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-addr-core."; > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > > Tom Maguire wrote: > > Hiro, > > I do not believe that the scenario you paint will occur. For example the > > XPath 1.0 specification latest version is: > > http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath which is the recommendation status for version > > 1.0. Version 2.0 is http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath20/ which is still in > > Working Draft status. When version 2.0 reaches recommendation status I am > > fairly certain the latest specification will represent the stable > > reference. > > > > Tom > > > > > > Frey’s Law: “Every 5 years the number of architecture components double and > > the ability to comprehend them halves” > > > > > > Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when > > there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery > > > > > > T o m M a g u i r e > > > > > > STSM, On Demand Architecture > > > > > > Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 > > > > > > > > Hiro Kishimoto > > <hiro.kishimoto@j > > p.fujitsu.com> To > > tom@coastin.com > > 06/20/2005 11:16 cc > > PM Tom Maguire/Hawthorne/IBM@IBMUS, > > David Snelling > > <David.Snelling@UK.Fujitsu.com>, > > WSRF <wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org> > > Subject > > Re: [wsrf] Fwd: WS-addressing > > reference in WSRF-RP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tom and Tom, > > > > A point I tried to make was a bit different. > > http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-addr-core is always pointing to their > > latest spec. thus if they develop version 1.1 or 2.0, this pointer > > points to that version and such action will be taken independently > > of WSRF-TC. I don't think WSRF should refer to such floating URL. > > > > Thanks, > > ---- > > Hiro Kishimoto > > > > Tom Rutt wrote: > > > >>Tom Maguire wrote: > >> > >> > >>>Tom, > >>> > >>>I absolutely agree with the sentiment. The stated intent of the WSRF > >>>TC is > >>>to wait until WS-Addressing goes to recommendation status before taking > >>>WSRF specs to standard. At that point the reference: > >>>http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-addr-core will be the correct one. > >>>Are you suggesting that we update the WSRF specs after Public Review to > >>>point to the reference: > >>>http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-ws-addr-core-20050331? > >>> > >>> > >> > >>I would rather wait until after the Public review to make this > >>decision. It depends on the stability at that time of both wsrf and ws > >>addressing. > >> > >>I was referring in my email below to the current versions of the > > > > document. > > > >>Tom Rutt > >> > >> > >>>I am not sure what that would accomplish, certainly the TC needs to be > >>>aware of any changes that occur in WS-Addressing core from 20050331 to > >>>recommendation status, but I think the reference in the PR is > >>>fundamentally > >>>expressing the intent of the standard. > >>> > >>>Tom > >>> > >>>Frey’s Law: “Every 5 years the number of architecture components > >>>double and > >>>the ability to comprehend them halves” > >>> > >>> > >>>Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when > >>>there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery > >>> > >>> > >>>T o m M a g u i r e > >>> > >>> > >>>STSM, On Demand Architecture > >>> > >>> > >>>Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 > >>> > >>>Tom Rutt <tom@coastin.com> wrote on 06/20/2005 08:24:08 AM: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>Tom Maguire wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>I looked at this when it was brought up on the OGSA call. My (perhaps > >>>>>uninformed) view is that the correct reference is > >>>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-addr-core given that when WS-Addr goes to > >>>>>recommendation status this is where the recommendation specification > >>>>> > >>> > >>>will > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>reside. In other words, that URL 'is' the stable reference for the > >>>>>recommendation level. > >>>>> > >>>>>Tom > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>We need to be careful here. We are using namespaces in our wsrf specs > >>>>which are defined in the last call spec > >>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-ws-addr-core-20050331 > >>>> > >>>>This is where these namespaces are defined. When the ws addressing > > > > core > > > >>>>spec progresses, there could be differences in the schema, which > >>>>would result in a different namespace applying. We have to ensure that > >>>>we correctly reference the proper version of the ws-addressing core > >>>>to avoid confusion, since both our wsrf spec and their ws-addressing > >>>>specs are still evolving. > >>>> > >>>>Tom Rutt > >>>>Fujitsu > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Frey’s Law: “Every 5 years the number of architecture components > > > > double > > > >>>and > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>the ability to comprehend them halves” > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but > > > > when > > > >>>>>there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>T o m M a g u i r e > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>STSM, On Demand Architecture > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> David Snelling > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> <David.Snelling@U > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> K.Fujitsu.com> > >>>>> > >>>To > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> WSRF <wsrf@lists.oasis-open.org> > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> 06/19/2005 02:22 > >>>>> > >>> > >>>cc > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> PM > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>Subject > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> [wsrf] Fwd: WS-addressing > >>>>> > >>> > >>>reference > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> in WSRF-RP > >>>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> > >>>>>Folks, > >>>>> > >>>>>The following came in from a Fujitsu colleague. I this an issue or is > >>>>>it just another statement of the fact that WS-A references will need > > > > to > > > >>>>>be fixed after Public Review? > >>>>> > >>>>>Begin forwarded message: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>We find that the current WS-addressing reference in WSRF-RP 1.2 CD > >>>>>>is inappropriate. In its normative reference section on page 44, > >>>>>>It refer to WS-addressing at "http://www.w3.org/TR/ws-addr-core."; > >>>>>>This address is always for the latest version and will be updated > >>>>>>in the future. You should refer to > >>>>>>"http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-ws-addr-core-20050331"; instead. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Namespaces on page 7 says that wsa is > >>>>>>"http://www.w3.org/2005/03/addressing."; I think it's better to > >>>>>>update the reference maybe by errata? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>> > >>>>>Take care: > >>>>> > >>>>> Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > > >>>>> Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe > >>>>> Hayes Park Central > >>>>> Hayes End Road > >>>>> Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE > >>>>> > >>>>> +44-208-606-4649 (Office) > >>>>> +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) > >>>>> +44-7768-807526 (Mobile) > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>>-- > >>>>---------------------------------------------------- > >>>>Tom Rutt email: tom@coastin.com; trutt@us.fujitsu.com > >>>>Tel: +1 732 801 5744 Fax: +1 732 774 5133 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > >
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