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Subject: Re: [wsrp-primer] Can we get our samples going?

I wasn't actually waiting for them. I decided I wanted them as I got 
back to the task. I realized that I really want to see the tutorial 
approach more fully realized. For me that meant to have consistency 
from Service Description, Registration and Markup to Use Profiles. I 
came to this conclusion because I have been using other materials, 
specifically the Web Services Interoperability Beta Testing program 
for the government's Enterprise Architecture program and for 
Emergency Services in general and the Common Alerting Protocol in 

I also decided, or had it decided for me, that this particular 
example needed to use Apache Tomcat and Axis for me, apart from the 
collaboration I have going, because that is what the govt uses for 
cost reasons I presume. However, I ran smack into a specific example 
using XMLSPY that simply did not work as the Guide showed, and it was 
damn near impossible to ferret out what the problem was. It happened 
to be on their end, and not from the remote computer I was using to 
test the networking connections.

 From there I went on to testing Sun's Web Service Developer's Pack 
and found that these different approaches, along with IBM's Web 
Sphere all handled these non-normative instructional materials very 

That's why I think we should consider including Appendices for Java 
and .Net and maybe the Apache Web Services projects. It might even be 
a good idea to make a long term plan to approach all these extras by 
coordinating Interop, Conformance SC work to generate these materials.

Just a few thoughts.


At 6:47 AM -0700 11/20/03, Subbu Allamaraju wrote:
>I wasn't aware you're waiting for my snippets for markup. Sure, I'll 
>add them to the suite I uploaded. I'm going to assume that the 
>consumer is going rewrite markup for the snippets. I'm particularly 
>busy today and tomorrow, so I'll shoot it for Monday.
>I also need to update the service description messages and review 
>others. Alan, is there a way we can get the next draft with edits 
>reviewed/accepted so that I can make additions/changes.
>Rex Brooks said the following on 11/20/2003 07:04 AM:
>>Hi Folks,
>>While it might seem fairly simple, I don't want to start a specific 
>>description of our generic tutorial samples of P-Inc-and-C-Inc.'s 
>>Markup until I get it from Subbu based on his scenario and the 
>>previous descriptions of the messages and process. As simple as it 
>>will be, it is still specific enough that I don't want to spend 
>>time adjusting the css classes and the base stylesheet, the size of 
>>the portlet, the specifics of the signatures in the messages, etc, 
>>and the urls as well and I don't think it would be wise to include 
>>references to it in my presentation in DC Dec. 9 with those samples 
>>missing--we really need to have the output as well as message and 
>>markup coding. So, if there is any way Subbu could get at least a 
>>first pass at this to us, I would deeply appreciate it.
>>Andre has given me the xsl and xml files for a .Net, WS-I tracelog 
>>and I am attaching those files because I would like to use them in 
>>an appendix, or something like them based on the actual samples we 
>>use. Rich has also asked Richard to send along another set of log 
>>files so that a developer can look at our messages and then check 
>>an actual sample from Interop/Conformance testing.
>>Also, we haven't really started the actual tutorial and I need to 
>>follow the style of description and the order of presentation that 
>>Subbu establishes for the series that will carry through the primer.
>>P.S. I want to work on the Markup Interface section while I am also 
>>working on the Portal Demo and the presentation in which it occurs 
>>this weekend. Since they all work together, it sorta makes sense to 
>>me to work this way.

Rex Brooks
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