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Subject: [wsrp-wsia] Minutes for 27 February 2003 Meeting
Meeting started at 9:06 PST An attempt to start the meeting at 8:00 AM PST failed due to a lack of a quorum. ==================================================================== The minutes were accepted from the meeting last Thursday, 2/20/03 The Tuesday meeting on 2/25/03 was cancelled due to a lack of a quorum. ==================================================================== Roll Call Voting Members: ------------------- Alejandro Abdelnur Sun no Sasha Aickin Plumtree no Subbu Allamaraju BEA yes Olin Atkinson Novell yes Atul Batra Sun yes Amir Blich SAP yes Chris Braun Novell yes Rex Brooks Starbourne yes T.J. Cox Novell no William Cox BEA no Brian Dirking Stellent no Michael Freedman Oracle yes Ross Fubini Plumtree yes Richard Jacob IBM yes Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier yes Andre Kramer Citrix yes Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation yes Carsten Leue IBM yes Dan Machak Tibco yes Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu yes Adam Nolan Reed-Elsevier yes Sunit Randhawa Fujitsu no Nigel Ratcliffe Factiva no Eilon Reshef WebCollage no Joe Rudnicki U.S. Navy no Gennady Shumaker SAP yes Yossi Tamari SAP Portals no Gil Tayar WebCollage no Rich Thompson IBM yes Eric van Lydegraf Kinzan no Michael Young Plumtree no Charles Wiecha IBM yes Total voting members: 32 Voting members in attendance: 19 (59%) A quorum was present. Members on Leave Of Absence ---------------------------- Monica Martin Drake Certivo LOA Petr Palas Moravia IT LOA Raj Ramesh CommerceOne LOA Thomas Schaeck IBM LOA Steven Smith Capitol College LOA WSIA Members in attendance (non-voting) --------------------------------------- Bruce Lucas IBM yes ==================================================================== Summary of Change Requests: 167 – Correct mime types ACCEPTED 171 – Make RegistrationState field use explicit. ACCEPTED 172 – explicitly useCachedMarkup ACCEPTED 142 – Remove performInteraction()? TIE VOTE 147 – Exposes Registration portType or req registration?: ACCEPTED 170 – Producer providing UserCategory support for Portlets ACCEPTED 169 – Is resourceName usage a conformance statement? ACCEPTED 153 – Make resourceName optional? ACCEPTED 151 – UserScope definition ACCEPTED 155 – Resending UserContext semantics ACCEPTED 174 – Processing a new cacheControl ACCEPTED 156 – Reset + set properties semantics ACCEPTED 144 – Meaning of requiresRegistration field ACCEPTED 158 – ServiceDescription.locales definition Treated as Change Bar in spec ==================================================================== Small editorial/grammar changes (I do not expect to walk through these unless there are objections): 167 – Correct mime types Section 5.1.10 / Page 19 / Line 36 Use actual mime types in example rather than common acronyms 171 – Make RegistrationState field use explicit. Sections 5.1.19 & 5.1.20 / Page 24 / Lines 2 & 21 Title says it all 172 – explicitly useCachedMarkup Section 6.1.10 / Page 31 / Line 40-42 By being explicit, the conformance statement can stand on its own Resolution: Accepted without comment ==================================================================== 142 – Remove performInteraction()? Impacts many sections JSR168 has dropped the need for this operation. Do we still want to keep it? Basic trade-off is the additional functionality vs the additional complexity for understanding, implementing and testing. Arguments for removing: reduction in complexity Arguments against removing: already defined. Semantics are useful. Resolution: Tie vote 9 for removing, 9 for keeping, 1 abstain Vote outcome: Subbu Allamaraju BEA yes Olin Atkinson Novell abstain Atul Batra Sun yes Amir Blich SAP no Chris Braun Novell yes Rex Brooks Starbourne no Michael Freedman Oracle no Ross Fubini Plumtree yes Richard Jacob IBM yes Jon Klein Reed-Elsevier no Andre Kramer Citrix no Alan Kropp Vignette Corporation no Carsten Leue IBM yes Dan Machak Tibco yes Madoka Mitsuoka Fujitsu no Adam Nolan Reed-Elsevier no Gennady Shumaker SAP no Rich Thompson IBM yes Charles Wiecha IBM yes A yes vote means that performInteraction would be removed. ==================================================================== 147 – Exposes Registration portType or requires registration? Section 3.5 / Page 11 / Line 34-35 Proposal is to change a conformance statement from exposing the in-band technique for registering to the use of the requiresRegistration flag. Resolution: Accepted - Will drop sentence entirely ==================================================================== 170 – Producer providing UserCategory support for Portlets Section 5.1.1 / Page 20 / Line 4-5 Proposal is to drop the conformance level language from the note that the Producer may actually provide this support on behalf of the Portlet. Resolution: Accepted - Will drop sentence entirely ==================================================================== 169 – Is resourceName usage a conformance statement? Section 5.1.5 / Page 17 / Line 19-20 Question is the value of making the use of resourceName as an indirection in a ResouceList a conformance statement. Proposal is to keep the content, but not as a conformance statement. Resolution: Accepted - Will drop conformance language. ==================================================================== 153 – Make resourceName optional? Section 5.1.5 / Page 17 / Line 23 Proposal is to have semantics for not supplying a resourceName (namely that values for other locales are not supplied). Resolution: Accepted ==================================================================== 151 – UserScope definition Section 5.1.11 / Page 19 / Line 19-20 + others Proposal change UserScope from a tri-value to an open-ended set with 2 predefined values. This drops the needs to use the extensions field just to carry the name of other semantics. Resolution: Accepted: UserScope field changed to type String. Define Strings for the 2 pre-defined scopes. This will be modelled more like modes and window-states. ==================================================================== 155 – Resending UserContext semantics Section 5.1.11 / Page 20 / Line 29 Proposal is to clarify the semantics of new information being supplied for either UserContext or Templates. Resolution: Approved. Semantics should be that new info replaces the old. ==================================================================== 174 – Processing a new cacheControl Section 6.1.10 / Page 31 / Line 40-42 Be explicit when useCachedMarkup is "true" and a new CacheControl is supplied, it replaces the previous one. Resolution: Approved. Semantics should be that new info replaces the old. ==================================================================== 156 – Reset + set properties semantics Section 5.1.14 / Page 21 / Line 37 Proposal is for clear semantics when a property is included in both the reset and set arrays of a PropertyList. First question is whether it is necessary to define any semantics on how to handle properties in both arrays, or to enforce the two arrays to be mutually exclusive. Resolution: Approved. Arrays are mutually exclusive. Producer will throw a fault. ==================================================================== 144 – Meaning of requiresRegistration field Section 5.1.18 / Page 23 / Line 17 Proposal is for a new conformance statement for when requiresRegistration='true'. Resolution: Approved. ==================================================================== 158 – ServiceDescription.locales definition Section 5.1.18 / Page 23 / Line 29 Proposal seeks to clarify that not all LocalizedStrings will have values for all locales. Resolution: Rich will update the language. ==================================================================== There will be 2 teleconferences next week: Tuesday, March 4 8:00 am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00 pm CET duration: 1 hour Thursday March 6 8:00 am PST / 11:00 am EST / 5:00 pm CET duration: 2 hours ==================================================================== Meeting adjournded at 10:05 PST
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