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Subject: RE: [wss] Use Cases for the Interop Demo


Anthony,

	With due respect to you, I think you are missing the point. I
suggest you talk with the participants of last year's SAML interop demo
and get a feel of what we are trying to achieve here.

	The interop demo is to evangelize the security substrate and
standards that constitute that layer, to the users. The Burton group
conference (and similar venues - in the US and outside US) is a better
venue for this. 

	We want to increase the visibility and understanding of the
standards with the users as well as demonstrate that
different-independent-implementations can have the same common shared
view of the various elements and work together. IMHO, WS-I, which is a
specification body, understands the power of standards and does not
require evangelization.

cheers
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Nadalin [mailto:drsecure@us.ibm.com] 
> Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 7:29 AM
> To: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [wss] Use Cases for the Interop Demo
> 
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> 
> Is this something that OASIS should sponsor and not the 
> Burton group, maybe
> this could happen at the WS-I F2F in March as a prelude to 
> the WS-I basic
> security profile.
> 
> Anthony Nadalin | work 512.436.9568 | cell 512.289.4122
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> 
> Hi Krishna
> 
> 
> 
> Happy New Year to you.  I am doing well and I hope this 
> coming year finds
> you the same.
> 
> 
> 
> My recollection of the Interop Fest (I'm not sure that a name has been
> chosen) was that it was definitely something that the 
> majority of the TC
> wanted to do and most felt that it would be very useful in 
> shaking out any
> problems in the specification.   The only date mentioned was the first
> quarter of this year.  No place or accompanying event was 
> decided or even
> discussed.
> 
> 
> 
> If the TC is going to have something in the first quarter we 
> have to start
> planning now.   I'm happy to hear that you would be interested in
> participating in the event.  The practical insight of Cisco 
> would be very
> important in having real world scenarios.
> 
> 
> 
> Can we get some additions hands raised for interest in the event?
> 
> 
> 
> Kelvin - Can we add an item to the agenda for Jan 14th to kick off
> discussion on the interop fest.
> 
> 
> 
> Don
> 
>              -----Original Message-----
>              From: Krishna Sankar [mailto:ksankar@cisco.com]
>              Sent: Sat 1/11/2003 11:02 PM
>              To: Flinn, Don
>              Cc:
>              Subject: RE: [wss] Use Cases for the Interop Demo
> 
> 
> 
>              Don,
> 
>                      How are you doing ? Happy New year.
> 
>                      Don't know if this is an opportunity for 
> interop demo
> for the
>              Burton conference. I think it is.
> 
>                      Also, I would be interested in participating.
> 
>              cheers
> 
>              > -----Original Message-----
>              > From: Flinn, Don [mailto:Don.Flinn@quadrasis.com]
>              > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 3:38 PM
>              > To: wss@lists.oasis-open.org
>              > Subject: [wss] Use Cases for the Interop Demo
>              >
>              >
>              > Hi all
>              >
>              > Some discussion took place at the last F2F 
> about the need
> for
>              > some use cases for the proposed Interop Demo.  
> I've attached
>              > a few use cases for discussion. There is one 
> base case and
>              > two variations.  I also think that it would be 
> useful to
> have
>              > a standard format for the use cases, so I 
> propose the one I
>              > have used.  This is the format that was used 
> by the XACML TC
>              > with a few modifications by myself.  Let's have some
>              > discussion on the format and the proposed use cases.
>              >
>              > Don
>              >
>              >  <<federation.doc>>
>              >
> 
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