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Subject: Re: [xcbf] SignedData Attributes - DigitalSignature Attributes


Alessandro,

The type for certificates is certificates, a CHOICE
of either X.509 identity certificates, X.509 attribute
certificates as defined in the free ITU-T module database:
(http://www.itu.int/ITU-T/asn1/database/itu-t/x/x509/index.html)
or, the X9.68 compressed domain digital certificate (see
http://asn-1.com/x968.htm), an open type that allows for
other flavors of certificates to be used as they evolve or
become prevalent.

Generally, certificates are a SEQUENCE type. They are signed
objects, so they can be carried in the clear in SignedData,
as they are already protected. Certificate signatures are
computed over a DER encoding of their content. To be useful,
and generally to be handed off to a validation and verification
tool, they must be in binary.

For the purposes of XCBF, they are peripheral to our work and
need not be decoded into XML markup in order to use the XCBF
specification. Note that the certificates and crls components
of SignedData are optional, and that even when present in a
message, these components may carry more or less certificates
and crls needed to verify a signature.

So it is best to simply make them opaque objects, as their
structural details are of no consequence in XCBF.

Phil


Alessandro Triglia wrote:

> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Phil Griffin [mailto:phil.griffin@asn-1.com] 
>>Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 16:12
>>To: Ed Day
>>Cc: xcbf
>>Subject: Re: [xcbf] SignedData Attributes - DigitalSignature 
>>Attributes
>>
>>
>>Not at all. Only the inputs to cryptographic
>>processing need to be in canonical form. The
>>suggested attributes will exist in the wrapper
>>that carries this information.
>>
>>Note that in IETF SMIME CMS (and X9.73 CMS),
>>which defines SignedData, the encoding is BER
>>for everything but the DER payload that is
>>signed.
>>
>>This is the same technique I wish to apply
>>here.
>>
> 
> 
> Phil, what is the ASN.1 type of "certificates" and "crls"?  Unless the
> type is OCTET STRING, according to the current text of XER/VXER, the
> content of these elements cannot be a base-64 string.  If it is OCTET
> STRING, there is no need of a "format" attribute, as the base-64
> encoding would be specified in the schema via a VXER encoding
> instruction.  
> 
> Alessandro
> 
> 
> 
>>Phil
>>
>>
>>
>>Ed Day wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I thought in a canonical XER encoding things could be done 
>>>
>>one way and only
>>
>>>one way.  Doesn't introducing these attributes violate the 
>>>
>>canonical rules?
>>
>>>Regards,
>>>
>>>Ed Day
>>>Principal Engineer
>>>Objective Systems, Inc.
>>>Tel: +1 (484) 875-3020
>>>Fax: +1 (484) 875-2913
>>>Toll-free: (877) 307-6855 (USA only)
>>>mailto:eday@obj-sys.com
>>>http://www.obj-sys.com
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Phil Griffin" <phil.griffin@asn-1.com>
>>>To: "xcbf" <xcbf@lists.oasis-open.org>
>>>Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 9:02 AM
>>>Subject: [xcbf] SignedData Attributes - DigitalSignature Attributes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I proposed on 8/6 that the following XML markup be used
>>>>in XCBF.
>>>>
>>>>   <version> ........................ </version>
>>>>   <digestAlgorithms> ............... </digestAlgorithms>
>>>>   <encapContentInfo> ............... </encapContentInfo>
>>>>   <certificates format='base64'> ... </certificates>
>>>>   <crls format='base64'> ........... </crls>
>>>>   <signerInfos> .................... </signerInfos>
>>>>
>>>>The signature component of the SIGNATURE parameterized
>>>>type identifies a value of type BIT STRING. These bits
>>>>are not used as bit flags, and signatures tend to be in
>>>>the thousands of bits in length and can more easily and
>>>>compactly be represented as OCTET STRINGs. I propose that
>>>>the following XML markup be used for these values:
>>>>
>>>>   <signature format='hex'> ... </signature>
>>>>
>>>>So far, I have received no comments. Unless I hear comments
>>>>that use of these attributes is unacceptable, I will include
>>>>them in the next release of the XCBF document.
>>>>
>>>>Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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