Re: [xdi] Agenda: XDI TC Telecon Thursday 1:00-2:00PM PT 2011-10-13

[Drummond Reed <drummond.reed@xdi.org>]

Mike, sounds like a very relevant discussion to implementing discovery. It's also related to another issue about subtypes, i.e., what if a client wants to make a discovery query for only the https XDI 1.0 endpoint, i.e., they know they want to use https and don't even want to see any other XDI endpoint type.

Just like with the ordering problem, it can be done EITHER with a subcontext (or supercontext) of $uri, or it can be done with a subcontext (or supercontext) of the $xdi$v!1 relational arc inside the $uri context. Examples:

1) SUBCONTEXT OF $URI

=!1111$uri$https/!1!/(data:,https:%2F%2Fxdi.example.com%2F)
=!1111$uri$https/$xri$v$1/!1!

2) SUPERCONTEXT OF $URI

=!1111$https$uri/!1!/(data:,https:%2F%2Fxdi.example.com%2F)


=!1111$https$uri/$xri$v$1/!1!

3) SUBCONTEXT OF $XDI$V!1

=!1111$uri/!1!/(data:,https:%2F%2Fxdi.example.com%2F)

=!1111$uri/$xri$v$1$https/!1!

3) SUPERCONTEXT OF $XDI$V!1

=!1111$uri/!1!/(data:,https:%2F%2Fxdi.example.com%2F)


=!1111$uri/$https$xri$v$1/!1!

I have added both of these topics to the agenda at http://piratepad.net/SUlNdTZ26A.

=Drummond

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Michael Schwartz <mike@gluu.org> wrote:

Can we add one item to the agenda?

There has been some discussion at Gluu about the sample XDI Drummond published on : http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiDiscovery

Drummond has expressed an idea that relative ordering should be supported. For example  the following could all specify different orders:
 [*1, *2, *3] [a*1, a*2, a*3] [b*1, b*2, b*3]

This feature is not currently supported in oxGraph--only the first ordering is supported [*1, *2, *3...].

I think it would be equally clear to use a subcontext to acheive this result. Does the standard really need relative ordering if it can be achieved with a subcontext? See attached sample graph.

- Mike



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On Thu, 13 Oct 2011, Drummond Reed wrote:

Following is the agenda for the unofficial telecon of the XDI TC at:

Date:  Thursday, 06 October 2011 USA
Time:  1:00PM - 2:00PM Pacific Time (20:00-21:30 UTC)

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AGENDA


1) LINK CONTRACT REFERENCE IN XDI MESSAGES AND PUBLIC LINK CONTRACT
REFERENCES

This open issue is still pending and it would be good to close it before
Internet Identity Workshop. See:

 http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xdi/201106/msg00041.html
 http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xdi/XdiMessagePatterns

Drummond will also try to post a proposal before the call.


2) INTERNET IDENTITY WORKSHOP PREP

We began discussing this last week and will see if there are any additional
thoughts.


3) NEXT CALL

Internet Identity Workshop is next week so we will probably not have a call
-- let's discuss.

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