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Subject: [xliff] Minutes of the XLIFF TC July 9th. 2002

Minutes of the XLIFF TC July 9th. 2002

1/ Attendance: Jonathan Clark, Ian Dunlop, Tony Jewtushenko, Caroline Koff,
Mark Levins, Mat Lovatt, Enda McDonnell, John Reid, Peter Reynolds, Yves
Savourel, Mirek Driml, Gérard Cattin des Bois.
Apologies: John Corrigan, Reinhard Schaler, Christian Lieske, David Leland
Observer: David Pooley

2/ Minutes of the last meeting were agreed as a correct record.

3/ Charter discussion
Enda introduced the discussion on the charter and outlined the issues which
remained open following previous discussions. 
These were:
Vocabularies - It was agreed that this would be changed to 'xml
Mark-up/ capture - It was agreed that this would be changed to 'mark-up and
Aspects of the Internationalisation process - It was agreed that the
relevant sentence will be amended to '...localisation aspects of
internationalisation, and the entire localisation process.'

There was a discussion on whether the charter was a reduction in the scope
of the work of the TC and it was agreed that it was not. 

There was a suggestion that the reference in the original charter that '..
is tool independent and standardised for the purpose of localisation and
supporting the whole localisation process.' Should be kept. It was decided
that this was implicit and there was no need to state it in the charter.

The new version of the charter reads as follows:
"The purpose of the OASIS XLIFF TC is to define, through XML vocabularies an
extensible specification for the interchange of localization information.
The specification will provide the ability to mark up and capture
localizable data and interoperate with different processes or phases without
loss of information. The vocabularies will be tool-neutral, support the
localization-related aspects of internationalization and the entire
localization process. The vocabularies will support common software and
content data formats. The specification will provide an extensibility
mechanism to allow the development of tools compatible with an implementer's
own proprietary data formats and workflow requirements".

This will be voted on by a mail ballot which will be sent out by Tony in the
next few days and votes will be expected to be returned to him by July 22nd.

4/ Migration strategy
Tony introduced the document on migration strategy. The following issues
were dealt with, more details can be found in Tony's email:

Support for existing users - This was agreed as proposed.

Rules for dot releases and full number releases.
It was agreed that we would change this description to major and minor
There was some discussion on whether or not we should have a different
policy on major or minor releases. This was linked with the discussion we
had at the last meeting concerning deprecation. Tony said that he would
re-write this section including this definition. 
There was a debate on whether we should define the difference between a
major or minor release. It was agreed that there should be a reference to
how major or minor releases were decided upon by the TC. Tony will draft

Rules for name changes were agreed as suggested.

Impact of migration on user organisation
There was some debate on the need for this section or lack of it. It was
decided that this would be amended to say, '..where appropriate we will
audit food chain migration compliance issues when deciding on architectural
It was also pointed out that Oasis do not want us to certify compliance for
legal reasons. Compliance should be called guidelines.

Save as versioning / Backward compatibility
There was a debate on this and the need to be able to save an XLIFF document
using a previous DTD or schema. The difficulties of doing this from the tool
vendor's perspective were also outlined. It was suggested that if a version
1.0 document was opened by a tool which by default saves as version 2.0, the
tool should not delete tags which it does not understand. It was agreed that
tools will not perform an upgrade without telling the users. The tool should
recognise that it does not recognise an element and ask the user what to do.
It should also be able to convert an element to a namespace.
Tony said that he would review this and combine the two sections.

5/ Tony briefly mentioned the meeting where Tony, Yves and Peter looked at
managing our work.

6/ Lisa meeting
Tony asked for volunteers to address the LISA meeting in Heidelberg and the
LRC conference in Dublin. He also suggested that we meet have a face to face
meeting at the LISA conference. He was reminded that there were now more
Americans in the TC.

7/ Next meeting - Tuesday,  23 July 2002,  04:00PM Europe/London/Dublin  /
08:00 AM PST

Peter Reynolds, Software Development Manager, Berlitz GlobalNET
3, West Pier Business Campus, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin, Ireland
Tel: +353-1-202-1280
Fax: +353-1- 202-1299
Web Site: http//www.berlitzglobalnet.com
"Don't just translate it, BerlitzIT" http//www.berlitzIT.com 

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