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Subject: [xliff] XLIFF Teleconference Minutes - Tuesday, 10 Dec 2002
- From: Mark Levins <mark_levins@ie.ibm.com>
- To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
- Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:22:22 +0000
1) Roll Call
Present: Mark Levins, John Reid, Tony
Jewtushenko, Matt Lovatt, Enda McDonnell, Milan Karasek, Shigemichi Yazawa,
Bryan Schnabel, Christian Lieske, Reinhard Schaler
Observing: Doug Domini
Apologies: Peter Reynolds, Mirek Driml,
Yves Savourel
Absent: Gerard Cattin des Bois, Jonathan
Clarke, Ian Dunlop, John Corrigan, David Pooley
2) Outstanding Issues
Issue 1(of Tony's emailed document)
- Extending attribute values
Christian outlined his latest proposal
previously emailed to the group. Shigemichi listed some of the problems
with using 'union' and 'redefine' approaches to attribute value extension.
Discussion then moved to 'x-' usage + some URI + attribute value where
the URI was specific to a user's company. John Reid made the point that
the 'x-' preposition was already an extension and therefore the use of
URIs was at a users discretion. Talk then moved to discussion on where
extended attributes would be allowed, Mark moved to defer this until the
next meeting. After a vote, it was agreed to use the 'x-' mechanism for
attribute value extension.
Issue 2 - Context group
Closed from previous meeting.
Issue 3 - 'default' and 'defaults'
Christian outlined his emailed proposal
and his preferred option of using XPath. Mark raised his objections to
using XPath in the specification on the basis of the complexity it would
add to processing an XLIFF document. Mark raised John Reid's suggestion
of using <group> to store defaulted values and adding the defaultable
attributes to the group element. Tony suggested closing out on the original
proposal and not using XPath by replacing the default strategy with <group>.
John Reid volunteered to redefine the proposal around new attributes of
<group> for the next meeting.
Issue 4 - Phase names in <alt-trans>
John outlined his most recent proposal
which required very little changes to the XLIFF specification on the basis
that it already provided enough support for tracking phases and histories.
Tony motioned for voting on John's proposal at the next meeting, giving
everyone enough time to digest the proposal and be happy with the suggested
additional attribute values.
Issue 6 - reformat element revisited
Matt tabled new suggestions for reformatting
based on previously sent email. Mark raised objections to instruction-based
reformat element that would require similar functionality to XPath
and suggested adding new specific elements for content that can be changed
as part of the translation process (e.g. font, coord, style etc) where
these elements could contain a boolean attribute to indicate whether they
could be altered. Matt agreed to further investigate this approach and
create some examples for the next meeting. Enda then raised the question
of how this would affect the 'default' discussion and Matt brought up the
ability to default a translation or translatable content. Matt agreed to
try to factor these two points into his investigation for the next meeting.
Issue 7 - Context group 'purpose' recommended
values
John Reid explained his suggestion for
the attribute values. His proposal was unanimously agreed.
It was also agreed to add a new item
for discussion at the next meeting based on multiple attribute values (lists)
and valid separators based on Mark's email.
Issue 8 - phase-name as optional <alt-trans>
attribute
After the discussion on issue 4, this
item was deemed to be obsolete.
3) Schedule of Remaining Work
Omitted due to meeting overrun.
4) AOB
Mark raised work of Free Standards Group Open Internationalization Initiative's
Common XML Locale Announcement for discussion. This will be added to the
agenda of the next meeting wrt relevance to XLIFF.
5) Next meeting
Tuesday 17th December at changed time
of 4.00 p.m. / 8.00 a.m.
Mark Levins
IBM Software Group | Dublin Software Laboratory | Airways Industrial Estate
| Cloghran | Dublin 17 | Ireland
Phone: +353 1 7046676 | IBM Tie Line 166676
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