RE: [xliff] Translating XLIFF 1.2

[<bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com>]

Hello,

Good discussion. I think:

> For XLIFF 2.0, do we need to have two segmentation models as we have now in XLIFF 1.2?

. . . is the question that should perhaps end up on next meeting's agenda. This, and questions like it, are good lead in to the request I made that we start to think about getting back into "general XLIFF 2.0" mode after we wrap up the text scope/requirements work we've been doing for the past 6 months, or so.

Thanks,

Bryan

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From: Rodolfo M. Raya [rmraya@maxprograms.com]
Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 6:56 AM
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: RE: [xliff] Translating XLIFF 1.2

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@translate.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 12:26 PM
> To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: RE: [xliff] Translating XLIFF 1.2
>
> >>> Is the use of <seg-source> mandatory to
> >>> translate an XLIFF 1.2 file?
> >>
> >> It cannot because <seg-source> is not a mandatory element.
> >>
> >> The real question is: If there is a <seg-source> in a <trans-unit>,
> is
> >> it mandatory to use it to translate that <trans-unit>?
> >
> > The real question for me is different. Is the use of segmentation
> > based on <seg-source>/<mrk> optional in XLIFF 1.2?
>
> Yes, the use of XLIFF segmentation is optiona: Nothing says a tool must
> to take advantage of the segmentation provided in <seg-source>.
>
> But maybe you are really asking "Can a tool uses another way than <seg-
> source> to represent segmentation with a XLIFF 1.2 file?"
>
> There is no sentence in the specification that says: "If a tool
> supports segmentation, it must use <seg-source> to get or store the
> segmentation of the <source>." The same way there is no sentence that
> says "If a tool supports notes, it must read or set <note>."
>
> But <seg-source> is the only segmentation model defined in 1.2,
> therefore it is logical that a tool would utilize <seg-source> to get
> or store segmentation information from/in a 1.2 XLIFF document, so it
> can be interoperable with other tools.

Hi,

Segmentation is a process that can be done before creating an XLIFF file. It can even be done on the fly while the XLIFF file is being generated.

If the text to translate is already segmented, there is absolutely no need to use <seg-source> at all.

The sentences in a paragraph can easily be maintained together using a <group> element to enclose the related <trans-unit> elements. This also optional "segmentation model" has been possible since XLIFF 1.0.

For XLIFF 2.0, do we need to have two segmentation models as we have now in XLIFF 1.2?

Regards,
Rodolfo
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Rodolfo M. Raya   <rmraya@maxprograms.com>
Maxprograms      http://www.maxprograms.com


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