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Subject: Teleconference Minutes - Tuesday May-4-2010
XLIFF TC Teleconference Minutes Date: Tuesday, 04 May 2010 Time: 11:00am - 12:00pm ET === 1/ Roll call Bryan, David, Andrew, Magnus, Doug, Lucia, Asgeir, Yves, Christian, Rodolfo, Dimitra. === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 6 April 2010 meeting minutes: Accept, reject, or amend. http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201004/msg00001.html (and clarified by David and Mary) http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201004/msg00004.html Asgeir moves to approve the meeting minutes. Yves seconds. No objections. === 3/ Current XLIFF business --- 1. Updates on the 1st International XLIFF Symposium Lucia: Going as planned, reminder for call for paper will go out this week. Dimitra: maybe we will have a deadline extension. --- 2. Dealing with spam on the XLIFF user list Bryan: Some spam on the users list recently. Mary said that because of the nature of the list managing the list is not as easy. Rodolfo: The list was required by a user who does not post, and there are not many posts. Do we need the list? Bryan: I see value to it. Comments list is for communicating with the TC, so users list is important too. Lucia: I met Microsoft and Adobe people: they didn't know about the list but were interested. Need time to get used. --- 3. Announcement Magnus: Andrew is also on the call. Magnus will be leaving the TC at end of may. Andrew Swift will be replacing him. Andrew: New member of the TC for SDL. Bryan: Welcome! To Magnus: Thanks for all the contributions! === 4/ XLIFF Inline text SC report (LISA/OSCAR proposal to re-establish a partnership in developing common text markup) --- 1. Bryan and Yves requested OASIS Administrator, Mary to set up the SC --- 2. Yves' SC report (this is a placeholder for the regular report to the TC) It seems the most convenient time for most would be 7:30am MDT, on second Tuesday of each month. We could start next week if we have confirmation the SC is ready. === 5/ XLIFF 1.2 Errata Status Update --- 1. Rodolfo's report Rodolfo: No progress for now (too much work) Need help. Not enough time to do all the work. Any volunteer? Bryan: Wonderful job so far. Hope we can get volunteer(s) (right now?) Looking at the TODO list for 2.0, maybe it could bypass 1.2 errata? Anybody can volunteer? Rodolfo: The immediate task is the create the diff between old and new doc for the errata. And I also need to be replaced as secretary because cannot attend all meetings. Bryan and Rodolfo to discuss the change of responsibilities. 2. Steps are listed in wiki (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/) 3. OASIS provided an SVN repository === 6/ Rodolfo raises questions regarding 1. "Translatable stuff in XLIFF 1.2"(http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201002/msg00012.html) 2. segmentation (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201002/msg00029.html) (note: this thread had many facets. The url above is the latest entry, and also contains references to all the other email) 3. problems with seg-source (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201002/msg00028.html) Rodolfo: Use of seg-source create more problem than solution. Many issues, like annotation, etc. Question was is it mandatory? Yves: Agree with Rodolfo on the issues, just saying that seg-source is the only mechanism described in the current specs. Magnus: We need to address the shortcomings of seg-source in 2.0 Rodolfo: Another example of issue: Using seg-source create problem with XSLT. Bryan: So we have a disagreement on what is the best practice, and need to fixed/redesigned in 2.0. Yves/Rodolfo: Yes we should work on this in 2.0 === 7/ XLIFF 2.0 --- 1. Finish our work regarding text elements in XLIFF 2.0 This has been transitioned to the new xliff-inline SC. Rodolfo: Info from Arle (LISA): Arle will try to participate to SC. --- 2. Decide how to go forward with remaining (non-text) parts of XLIFF 2.0 2.1 Revisit Feature Tracking (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0/FeatureTracking) 2.2 Revisit XLIFF 2.0 Dashboard (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0) Bryan: See PDF here for a proposal on how to move forward: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/37598/XLIFF2.0_proposed-methodolgy.pdf Rodolfo: can be done directly in wiki? Bryan: yes Rodolfo: similar format already in place. Asgeir: yes, it's just an extension of this. All is ready. Dimitra: Like the idea of the template, but I think we would like to know when about will XLIFF 2.0 will be published, so that we make recommendations. Bryan: we will use this methodology going forward. Is 90 days a good number? Start a thread in the list on this if needed. Next week: 7:30 MDT first inline SC meeting. And we need to agree on the period for proposing new features for 2.0 And thanks again to Magnus for his great work Magnus: I will still be here next meeting it'll be my last meeting. Lucia: Can I attend the SC just in 'listening' mode? Rodolfo: yes as Observer. David: if you are Observer and want to change to Member (for example to vote) it is not easy. So starting as member is probably better. Meeting adjourned.