RE: [xliff] Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools

Subject: RE: [xliff] Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools as a guide for 2.0 features

Hello all,

One of the actions items I'd like us to act on this year is the suggestion by Thomas Vackier that we catalog all the extensions the toolmakers are using as an indicator of what we need to add to XLIFF to make it function *out-of-the-box*. This will hopefully enable us to solve some of the cross-tool incompatibility issues we've learned of. Yves, Thomas, and I are in favor of using the Wikipedia's XLIFF article as a place to store this information. Let's talk about this at our next meeting.

Also, please note that I've cc'd the xliff-users list on this thread. Let's try to keep this thread current on each list so that Thomas, and others who are not members can keep in the loop. (of course I welcome Thomas to join our TC to help us directly)

Thanks,

Bryan
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From: Yves Savourel [ysavourel@translate.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:42 AM
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: Thomas@yamagata-europe.com
Subject: FW: [xliff] Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools as a guide for 2.0 features

Hi Thomas,

You're right: posting on xliff@lists.oasis-open.org requires to be TC member.
I'm forwarding your email to it.

Bryan: maybe this specific discussion could be on xliff-users@lists.oasis-open.org? That list is open to the public and given this topic it could allow us to reach other developers not in the TC.

Cheers,
-ys

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Vackier [mailto:Thomas@yamagata-europe.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:43 AM
To: Yves Savourel; bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com
Subject: RE: [xliff] Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools as a guide for 2.0 features

Hi,

Thanks for involving me in this, really appreciate that.

I think Yves is right about adding this to Wikipedia's XLIFF article, this way the extension creators can easily add or amend content themselves.

Regards

P.S. I can't seem to post to this mailing list, but I guess OASIS membership is required for that?

Thomas Vackier
Localisation & QA Tools Engineer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Yves Savourel [mailto:ysavourel@translate.com]
Sent: maandag 6 december 2010 19:38
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: Thomas Vackier
Subject: RE: [xliff] Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools as a guide for 2.0 features

Hi Bryan, Thomas, all

I like Thomas' idea of using a wiki for this.

We could use the TC's, but it is restricted to OASIS members and hopefully some toolmakers that are not OASIS member will be willing to compile their list of extension as well.

We could use another wiki where we have more control, but I was wondering if it might be even better to use Wikipedia's XLIFF article for that list of extension. After all it's a list that could be handy for many end-users, and having it there might help us to get the input of some developers we don't know about.

Just a thought,
-ys

-----Original Message-----
From: bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com [mailto:bryan.s.schnabel@tektronix.com]
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:49 AM
To: xliff@lists.oasis-open.org
Cc: Thomas@yamagata-europe.com
Subject: [xliff] Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools as a guide for 2.0 features

Hello TC,

I just wanted to mention, as we get ready to start the new year, that I've spoken to Thomas about the excellent suggestion he made at the symposium that we take a look at where the toolmakers are using extension points as a guide to making these standard features.

He (like most of us) is quite busy for the rest of the year, but agreed to help get us started, and to share the information he's gathered so far.

Thanks,

Bryan

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RE: XLIFF 2.0 features based on what the toolmakers are extending Monday, December 6, 2010 5:56 AM

From:
"Thomas Vackier" <Thomas@yamagata-europe.com>

To:
"Bryan Schnabel" <bschnabel@bschnabel.com>

Don't mind at all!

From: Bryan Schnabel [mailto:bschnabel@bschnabel.com]
Sent: maandag 6 december 2010 3:41
To: Thomas Vackier
Subject: RE: XLIFF 2.0 features based on what the toolmakers are extending

Hi Thomas,

I surely understand how busy it is approaching the end of the year. But would you mind if I forward to the XLIFF TC your support and willingness to help on this front, starting next year?

Thanks,

Bryan

--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Thomas Vackier <Thomas@yamagata-europe.com> wrote:

From: Thomas Vackier <Thomas@yamagata-europe.com>
Subject: RE: XLIFF 2.0 features based on what the toolmakers are extending
To: "Bryan Schnabel" <bschnabel@bschnabel.com>
Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 3:21 AM

Hi Bryan,

I'd be more than glad to help with that.

I'm going to be rather busy up until the end of the year, but let me know how you see this work out practically.

A good overview of all what's available now will be a good start. We should get that online somewhere, preferably in a wiki.

Thomas

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Sent: zondag 21 november 2010 22:08
To: Thomas Vackier
Subject: XLIFF 2.0 features based on what the toolmakers are extending

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Date: 11/21/2010
Subject: XLIFF 2.0 features based on what the toolmakers are extending

Hi Thomas,

I hope all is well for you. I enjoyed your talk at XLIFF. I think you recommended looking at the custom extension the various tool makers have been using, in order to inform the new features we add in XLIFF 2.0. I think this is brilliant. I wonder if you might be interested in helping us to do just that.

Since you've already been thinking about it, I think you might be in a position to get us started.

Thanks,

Bryan

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