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Subject: XLIFF TC Teleconference - Summary
Date: Tuesday, 15 February 2011 === 1/ Roll call Presents: Bryan, Lucia, David, Rodolfo, Andrew, Arle, Yves, Christian (late) Regrets: Christian (early on), Dimitra (can't participate to TC anymore) Absents: Peter === 2/ Approve Tuesday, 01 February 2011 meeting minutes: (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00001.html) Bryan moves to accept the minutes Rodolfo seconds No objection === 3.1. ISO/OASIS XLIFF - XLIFF as an ISO standard (Peter) Peter not on the call. No other comments === 3.2. MIME-type for XLIFF (Christian) (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201010/msg00004.html) Christian not on the call. No other comments === 3.3. XLIFF Symposium Debrief: "Voice of our customer" (Christian) - Consolidated takeaways wiki page (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/Consolidated%20Takesaways%20from%20First%20XLIFF%20Symposium) - Christian's slides: http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/xliff/download.php/39848/2010-10-08_1st%20XLIFF%20Symposium%20-%20XLIFF%20TC%20Summary-draft.pdf Christian sent an email today about this. Discussion tabled for when Christian is present. === 3.4. 2nd Annual XLIFF Symposium in Poland progress (Peter) Arle: is it with the TM conference? Bryan: Yes Rodolfo: in Warsaw Arle: discussing about a larger scope with Peter. === 3.5. Gathering common extension points from existing XLIFF Tools as a guide for 2.0 features (Bryan, Thomas) (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201101/msg00007.html) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLIFF#Current_Activity_Development_Around_The_XLIFF_Standard) Bryan: has trouble posting to xliff-user. Thomas asked where tool makers need to add extension. Bryan indicated we would use TC wiki. Micah sent his matrix: (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00007.html) Bryan also sent his extension for RoundTripTool Lucia: methodology for the matrix? Rodolfo: Micah did a draft then contacted the tool vendors, did several rounds. He send the draft matrix. Yves: Yes Authors were copied in Micah's email. David: worked on that matrix, there is a datasheet associated I think. Bryan: we do have the Excel file. David: Lucia would be perfect to add more tools :) Bryan: presume we'll continue Micah's work using the same datasheet. Lucia: will work on it. Bryan: may let's do a formal hand-off to avoid duplicated work. Need to make it transparent too. Rodolfo: we have to check with Micah. David: Agree. We can maintain it. Yves: matrix doesn't cover extensions Rodolfo: extension is quite a challenge Bryan: got verbal commitment from some tools makers to provide info. There are several action items on this. Need to make sure to presence this as an effort for progress Rodolfo: currently don't care about extensions Would provide no extension in 2.0 but make sure supplier have their features in 2.0 Would improve interoperability. Arle: Second that. I have a case illustrating concern about extensions Bryan: two different things: a) gathering info from extension to do a good 2.0 b) disallow extensions in 2.0 Christian noted that vendors don't necessarily contact us to talk about their needs. For now no harm in learning from existing extensions I think. Rodolfo: shouldn't waste time to do reverse engineer their extension. David: we have action items to get info. Going well so far. Agree that eliminating extensions could be good. No sure if possible. Rodolfo: maybe getting requirements would be easier. Bryan: maybe we can for both. We did vote in favor of gathering extension info. Agree also that gathering requirements is needed. Rodolfo: just saying it would be easier to get requirements Arle: +1 Bryan: so we continue gathering of extension, and also gather requirements. David: How to put this material in a way it's useable on the TC. Need process to get that information. Bryan: we voted to use the TC wiki. The issue is: how to organize this on the wiki. Need a volunteer to do this. Rodolfo: all we do is public, so we can't gather info if there is no permission to publish it. Bryan: agree. David: only TC members have access to wiki. Concern is logistical: in what form should the info be presented. Rodolfo: just get the volunteer gathering the info to add it to the wiki. Arle: could use Google doc to communicate info, then migrate it. Bryan: need a new wiki gardener, and maybe a more formal process for the gathering/publishing. Meanwhile let's continue to gather info. Google doc good idea, but not sure having a second place to look at was liked Rodolfo: who is contacting whom? Bryan: in the last minutes ACTION ITEM: Arle to gather extension from GlobalSight. Andrew: I just posted the extension from SDL. Couldn't upload file in wiki. Bryan: call for a volunteer for wiki gardener. Rodolfo: can we redistribute SDL extensions? (gathering a catalog) Andrew: yes. === 4 Sub Committee Reports: Inline text (Yves) a. Dependencies with other parts of XLIFF 2.0 (dependencies http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/xliff/201102/msg00002.html) Yves: Pending action item to report to the TC on the different options for storing native code inline. Also worked on the span-type marker and the different types of information. Came up with the thought that specialization (using different elements rather than a general <mrk> would be better for separation of the functionality/modularization, and allowing to support different levels of features. === 5.3. Review items from XLIFF 2.0 Dashboard (http://wiki.oasis-open.org/xliff/XLIFF2.0) (move any items to Feature Tacking Section?) - As a TC, let's decide if we want to look at these during our meeting, or ask members to look at these offline - Goal is to capture valid items, then delete this page Discussion Rodolfo: some of the items require to have requirements. Bryan: will start cleaning up the dashboard. Will no longer refer to this on the agenda. Rodolfo: it's obsolete Bryan: let's just make sure we don't lose any info from there. === 10/ New Business Rodolfo: Thanks to Bryan for the docbook conversion. Meeting adjourned. -end-
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