Re: [xliff] mrk translate outside the content but in scope

["Dr. David Filip" <David.Filip@ul.ie>]

Yves, I am reacting to the use cases inline using my proposed algorithm..

I first thought that yours should produce the same results but probably not, as your question marks do not seem puzzling to me..

Cheers

dF

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On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Yves Savourel <ysavourel@enlaso.com> wrote:

Maybe some use cases will help to clarify things.


-- case 1)

<unit id='1'>
 <segment translate='no'>
  <source>t1 <sm id='1' translate='yes'/></source>
 </segment>
 <segment translate='no'>
  <source>t2 <em startRef='1'/>t3</source>
 </segment>

-> t2 is translatable
-> t3 is not translatable

Agreed 

-- case 2)

<unit id='1' translate='no'>
 <segment translate='no'>
  <source>t1 <sm id='1' translate='yes'/></source>
 </segment>
 <segment>
  <source>t2 <em startRef='1'/>t3</source>
 </segment>

-> t2 is translatable
-> t3 is not translatable

Agreed 

-- case 3)

<unit id='1' translate='yes'>
 <segment translate='no'>
  <source>t1 <sm id='1' translate='yes'/></source>
 </segment>
 <segment>
  <source>t2 <em startRef='1'/>t3</source>
 </segment>

-> t2 is translatable

Agreed,  

-> t3 is translatable or not???

IMHO t3 is translatable as well.

t1 is in scope of its <segment translate="no">, not overridden, hence not translatable

t3 is in scope of its <unit translate="yes">  inherited through its parent segment and not overridden by an <sm/>/<em/> pair, hence translatable.

I do not see why it should be even considered not translatable.. Where is the puzzle?

BTW, t2 is set as translatable twice (redundantly) in this example

-- case 4)

<unit id='1' translate='no'>
 <segment translate='yes'>
  <source>t1 <sm id='1' translate='no'/>t2 <sm id='2' translate='yes'/></source>
 </segment>
 <segment>
  <source>t3 <em startRef='2'/>t4 <em startRef='1'/>t5</source>
 </segment>

-> t3 is translatable

yes, the unit default is overridden by the <sm/>/<em/> pair #2 

-> t4 is not translatable

yes, the unit default is redundantly confirmed by the <sm/>/<em/> pair #1  

-> t5 is translatable or not???

is not translatable by its unit default, this has not been overridden by anything, again where is the puzzle?

-- case 5)

<unit id='1' translate='no'>
 <segment translate='yes'>
  <source>t1 <sm id='1' translate='no'/>t2 <sm id='2' translate='yes'/></source>
 </segment>
 <segment translate='yes'>
  <source>t3 <em startRef='2'/>t4 </source>
 </segment>
 <segment>
  <source><em startRef='1'/>t5</source>
 </segment>

-> t3 is translatable

I agree, the inner <sm/>/<em/> wins over the outer

-> t4 is not translatable (the translate='yes' in that <segment> is non-applicable)

it applies but is enclosed in the overriding <sm/>/<em/> pair #1 

-> t5 is translatable or not???

t5 is not translatable by its unit default that has been neither flipped on segment nor overridden by an <sm/>/<em/> pair. 

-ys

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