Re: [xslt-conformance] Spreading the Work

[Eduardo Gutentag <eduardo.gutentag@sun.com>]

Lofton,

the IPR part that you mention (which is the one I meant, I just didn't want to
clutter the message with extensive quotations) covers, I believe, your numbers 
1 and 2. Number 3 is not covered, since this is a copyright issue, and one can't
copyright a general idea (though, of course, one can patent it, unfortunately).

As to your reading of that copyright notice, it differs considerably from mine.
What I read is that you can make copies and/or derivations of a document,
as long as you include the same copyright. What you cannot do is modify the
document itself (with the exceptions noted). 

Eduardo

Lofton Henderson wrote:
> 
> At 03:45 PM 10/24/01 -0700, Eduardo Gutentag wrote:
> >[...]
> >from a procedural point of view, the product of OASIS TCs should carry a
> >copyright
> >that allows for "stealing" (their words ;-)
> >(see http://oasis-open.org/who/intellectualproperty.shtml)
> >as long as the copyright and OASIS's name are preserved.
> 
> I also wonder if we need to distinguish different cases:
> 
> 1. wholesale transfer of a test suite, such as might happen with XML
> 
> 2. taking and modifying bits and pieces (such as I would anticipate for UAAG).
> 
> 3. borrowing the general idea, but re-implementing the details (e.g., DTD,
> scripts, etc)
> 
> In case #2, I know that UAAG is not interested in our results and reporting
> parts (Infoset-ize, Canonicalize, compare) -- it doesn't fit at all with
> how one would test a UA for accessibility conformance.
> 
> However, they might want to take our catalog and test case description DTD
> as a starting point, and modify it for their own test-case description
> language -- they would throw out some stuff, add some stuff, etc.  And they
> might want to do something similar with our design for describing the
> discretionary behavior, and the scripts for combining catalog & discretion
> to generate a customized suite.
> 
> In other cases, their approach could be closer to #3.
> 
> >I don't see that copyright notice in what is visible through the XSLT's home
> >page at OASIS (under the one you mentioned, "5. Documents") so I'm not sure
> >what the status is in this case.
> 
> The above-referenced IPR document is not very helpful.  Most of it
> addresses IPR of submitters and contributors to OASIS works, and
> disclaimers about warranty etc.  Very little about what the *public* can
> do.  OASIS.IPR.4 (c) comes closest.  But as I read that section, it seems
> to say "no modifications or derivatives except for OASIS business".
> 
> >Ken, you might want to consult with Karl as to what is appropriate in this
> >case, or you might consider slapping the right copyright notice on the
> >available
> >product of the TC
> 
> I think this is a good idea.  Especially, I would like some take on the
> range of "stealing rights", #1 - #3 above.
> 
> -Lofton.
> 
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