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Subject: Re: [ciq] Re: [Fwd: International address standard - next step] -LIAISON WITH ISO TC 211
Ram and all, Please note that Jamie will get back to you on this very soon. We just had a conversation about it. Laurent Executive Director Mary McRae wrote: > Please note that this type of request can only be submitted by OASIS and > not by an OASIS Member or TC. I'm copying Jamie Clark who can make the > appropriate submission/request on behalf of the organization. > > Regards, > > Mary > > > Mary P McRae > Director, Standards Development > Technical Committee Administrator > OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society > email: mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org <mailto:mary.mcrae@oasis-open.org> > web: www.oasis-open.org <http://www.oasis-open.org> > twitter: fiberartisan #oasisopen > phone: 1.603.232.9090 > > Standards are like parachutes: they work best when they're open. > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Ram Kumar wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I want to become a category A liaison member and I will be the member >> representing the TC in the working group. >> >> Category A: Organizations that make an effective contribution to the >> work of the technical committee or subcommittee for questions dealt >> with by this technical committee or subcommittee. Such organizations >> are given access to all relevant documentation and are invited to >> meetings. They may nominate experts to participate in a WG/PT >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> Ram >> >> On 6/9/09, *Ram Kumar* <kumar.sydney@gmail.com >> <mailto:kumar.sydney@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I am the Chair of the OASIS Technical Committee for Party >> Information Standards (OASIS CIQ) and I would like my TC to >> become a liasion member of ISO/TC 211. >> Please let me know whether you need any further information. >> >> Thank you >> >> Regards, >> >> Ram Kumar >> Chair, OASIS CIQ TC >> http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq >> >> >> >> >> On 4/23/09, *Serena Coetzee* <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za >> <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>> wrote: >> >> Dear Ram, >> >> The OASIS CIQ should send the official request to the ISO/TC >> 211 Secretariat, which is currently held by Ms Bjørnhild >> Sæterøy (bjs@standard.no <mailto:bjs@standard.no>) at >> Standards Norway P.O.Box 242 NO-1326 Lysaker Norway. >> >> Normally, a liaison request is decided by a resolution at a >> plenary meeting. The secretariat would need the liaison >> request at the latest on Monday to be able to make a decision >> at the upcoming ISO/TC 211 meeting in Molde in May 2009. But >> the liaison request could also be done by default ballot after >> the plenary meeting. If there are no objections, the >> secretariat informs the ISO Central Secretariat who register >> the liaison and confirm the liaison establishment with the >> organization. >> >> Regards, >> Serena Coetzee >> >> Department of Computer Science >> University of Pretoria >> Pretoria >> South Africa >> >> Tel: +27 12 420 2547 >> Fax: +27 12 362 5188 >> Mobile: +27 82 464 4294 >> >> >> >> Ram Kumar wrote: >>> Hi Serena, >>> >>> Yes, will be interested. What is the process of submitting a >>> liaison request? >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Ram >>> >>> >>> On 4/21/09, *Serena Coetzee* <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za >>> <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Ram, >>> >>> I trust all's well in Australia. >>> >>> As you will know from my mail in December, the UPU have >>> now established a liaison with ISO/TC 211 in anticipation >>> of the work on address standardization. I was wondering >>> whether OASIS, specifically the CIQ, would be interested >>> in doing the same? The requirements for liaisons are >>> listed in Part 1 of the ISO/IEC Directives (available on >>> www.iso.org <http://www.iso.org/>). OASIS already has a >>> liaison with ISO/TC 154, Processes, data elements and >>> documents in commerce, industry and administration, who >>> in turn have a liaison with ISO/TC 211. Thus the OASIS >>> CIQ could comment on the address standardization work via >>> those liaison relationships, but a liaison with ISO/TC >>> 211 would provide a direct link. If OASIS CIQ do want to >>> establish a liaison with ISO/TC 211, it would be a good >>> time to submit a liaison request it now, so that the >>> liaison is in place, in case the preliminary work on >>> address standardization starts later this year. >>> >>> Let me know if there is any interest, then I can direct >>> you to our secretariat for the submission. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Serena >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: International address standard - next step >>> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:55:57 +0200 >>> From: Serena Coetzee <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za> >>> <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za> >>> Organization: University of Pretoria >>> To: Serena Coetzee <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za> >>> <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za> >>> References: <49414433.5080603@cs.up.ac.za> >>> <mailto:49414433.5080603@cs.up.ac.za> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> Herewith a follow-up on my previous feedback email in December of last year (see below). >>> >>> After discussions with Antony Cooper, the ISO/TC 211 WG 7 convenor, as well as some of the other interested parties, it was decided to propose a preliminary work item (PWI) on "Address standardization requirements" in ISO/TC 211, also known as a "Stage 0 Project" (rather than proceeding with a proposal for a draft address standard). Below is an excerpt from the ISO/IEC Directives - Part 1, that describes such preliminary work. >>> >>> "2.2 Preliminary stage >>> 2.2.1 Technical committees or subcommittees may introduce into their work programmes, by a simple majority vote of their P-members, preliminary work items (for example, corresponding to subjects dealing with emerging technologies), which are not yet sufficiently mature for processing to further stages. Such items may include, for example, those listed in the strategic plan, particularly as given under 2.1.2 d) giving a prospective view on emerging needs. >>> 2.2.2 The preliminary stage shall be applied for work items where no target dates can be established. >>> 2.2.3 All preliminary work items shall be subject to regular review by the committee. The committee shall evaluate the resources required for each such item. >>> 2.2.4 This stage can be used for the elaboration of a new work item proposal (see 2.3) and the development of an initial draft. >>> 2.2.5 Before progressing to the preparatory stage, all such items shall be subject to approval in accordance with the procedures described in 2.3." >>> >>> Such a "Stage 0 Project" would make the work on the address standard "official" so that delegates can get funding to attend the project meetings, but it would not yet be a commitment on the content (scope) or the way to proceed (re: different options listed in the Tsukuba presentation in the previous email). Rather, it provides an opportunity for all interested parties to discuss and resolve these issues. In the best case scenario, the "Stage 0 Project" could be complete after a single meeting. >>> >>> During the upcoming ISO/TC 211 meeting week in Molde, Norway, there will be an informal meeting to discuss this proposal for a "Stage 0 Project". I will distribute a draft proposal via email before then. The meeting will take place on 27 May 2009 at 13:30. Details about the meeting week in Molde are available at http://www.isotc211.org/Molde/Molde.htm. Note that registration for the meeting week closes on Friday, 24 April 2009. >>> >>> If all goes well, the proposal can be submitted for voting in ISO/TC 211 shortly after the Molde meetings (June/July 2009). If the vote is positive, a first official project meeting could be held at the next round of ISO/TC 211 meetings in November 2009. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Serena Coetzee >>> >>> Department of Computer Science >>> University of Pretoria >>> Pretoria >>> South Africa >>> >>> Tel: +27 12 420 2547 >>> Fax: +27 12 362 5188 >>> Mobile: +27 82 464 4294 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Serena Coetzee wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I would like to share with you some feedback on the >>>> progress towards an international address standard, >>>> which I presented at the recent ISO/TC 211, Geographic >>>> information, meetings in Tsukuba, Japan. The >>>> presentation to the ISO/TC 211 WG 7, Information >>>> communities, meeting is attached. Below a short summary: >>>> >>>> Addresses lie between geographical information (ISO/TC >>>> 211, Geographic information), electronic business >>>> (ISO/TC 154, Processes, data elements and documents in >>>> commerce, industry and administration) and postal >>>> systems (Universal Postal Union, UPU), amongst others, >>>> and therefore quite a few stakeholders would be involved >>>> in an address standard. A number of these stakeholders >>>> have already been made aware of the ISO/TC 211 >>>> initiative on address standards. We have investigated >>>> ways of proceeding with an international address >>>> standard within ISO, the details are included in the >>>> presentation, but no decisions have been made. It is >>>> expected that the recently established ISO-UPU contact >>>> committee >>>> (http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1110) >>>> will also be involved. A possible initial suite of >>>> address standards could contain the following: >>>> Part 1: Reference model for address data >>>> Part 2: Terminology for addresses >>>> Part 3: Dictionary of postal address elements and >>>> country specific templates with precise descriptions of >>>> postal address formats (ie: UPU’s S42) >>>> Part 4: Standard on electronic exchange of name and >>>> address data (ie: UPU’s P14) >>>> Part 5: Whatever comes up next! e.g. address ontology, >>>> geo-referencing of addresses, revision of ISO 19112, >>>> Geographic information – Spatial referencing by >>>> geographic identifiers, etc. >>>> >>>> In anticipation of work on an international address >>>> standard, the Universal Postal Union (UPU) have >>>> submitted a liaison request to ISO/TC 211. The request >>>> was received too late for voting at the plenary meeting >>>> in Tsukuba, but voting is currently taking place, with a >>>> deadline of 2 January 2009. The upcoming revision of ISO >>>> 19112, Geographic information – Spatial referencing by >>>> geographic identifiers, should also be considered in >>>> relation to an international address standard. >>>> >>>> As a next step, I will develop and circulate a draft for >>>> the first part of an address standard. Anyone interested >>>> in contributing to the draft, contact me. The purpose of >>>> the draft is to start a discussion on the content for >>>> the first part of a suite of address standards. The >>>> draft will be sent out before the next ISO/TC 211 >>>> plenary meetings, which are to be held in Molde, Norway, >>>> during the last week of May 2009. An informal meeting to >>>> discuss this draft address standard in Molde is a >>>> possibility. >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Serena Coetzee >>>> >>>> Department of Computer Science >>>> University of Pretoria >>>> Pretoria >>>> South Africa >>>> >>>> Tel: +27 12 420 2547 >>>> Fax: +27 12 362 5188 >>>> Mobile: +27 82 464 4294 >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Serena Coetzee >>> >>> Department of Computer Science >>> University of Pretoria >>> Pretoria >>> South Africa >>> >>> Tel: +27 12 420 2547 >>> Fax: +27 12 362 5188 >>> Mobile: +27 82 464 4294 >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- Laurent Liscia, Executive Director OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society 1-978-667-5115, extension 201 Take a tour of OASIS at: http://www.oasis-open.org/home/tour.php
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