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Subject: Re: [ciq] Re: [Fwd: International address standard - next step] - LIAISON WITH ISO TC 211


Thanks Laurent.
 
Regards,
 
Ram

 
On 6/13/09, Laurent Liscia <laurent.liscia@oasis-open.org> wrote:
Ram and all,
Please note that Jamie will get back to you on this very soon. We just had a conversation about it.
Laurent
Executive Director

Mary McRae wrote:
Please note that this type of request can only be submitted by OASIS and not by an OASIS Member or TC. I'm copying Jamie Clark who can make the appropriate submission/request on behalf of the organization.

Regards,

Mary


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On Jun 9, 2009, at 7:04 AM, Ram Kumar wrote:

Hi,
 I want to become a category A liaison member and I will be the member representing the TC in the working group.
 Category A: Organizations that make an effective contribution to the work of the technical committee or subcommittee for questions dealt with by this technical committee or subcommittee. Such organizations are given access to all relevant documentation and are invited to meetings. They may nominate experts to participate in a WG/PT
 Thank you
 Regards,
 Ram
 On 6/9/09, *Ram Kumar* <kumar.sydney@gmail.com <mailto:kumar.sydney@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Hi,
       I am the Chair of the OASIS Technical Committee for Party
   Information Standards (OASIS CIQ) and I would like my TC to
   become a liasion member of ISO/TC 211.
   Please let me know whether you need any further information.
       Thank you
       Regards,
       Ram Kumar
   Chair, OASIS CIQ TC
   http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/ciq
   

       On 4/23/09, *Serena Coetzee* <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za
   <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>> wrote:

       Dear Ram,

       The OASIS CIQ should send the official request to the ISO/TC
       211 Secretariat, which is currently held by Ms Bjørnhild
       Sæterøy (bjs@standard.no <mailto:bjs@standard.no>) at

       Standards Norway P.O.Box 242 NO-1326 Lysaker Norway.

       Normally, a liaison request is decided by a resolution at a
       plenary meeting. The secretariat would need the liaison
       request at the latest on Monday to be able to make a decision
       at the upcoming ISO/TC 211 meeting in Molde in May 2009. But
       the liaison request could also be done by default ballot after
       the plenary meeting. If there are no objections, the
       secretariat informs the ISO Central Secretariat who register
       the liaison and confirm the liaison establishment with the
       organization.

       Regards,
       Serena Coetzee

       Department of Computer Science
       University of Pretoria
       Pretoria
       South Africa

       Tel: +27 12 420 2547
       Fax: +27 12 362 5188
       Mobile: +27 82 464 4294



       Ram Kumar wrote:
       Hi Serena,
               Yes, will be interested. What is the process of submitting a
       liaison request?
               Regards,
               Ram

               On 4/21/09, *Serena Coetzee* <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za
       <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>> wrote:

           Dear Ram,

           I trust all's well in Australia.
           As you will know from my mail in December, the UPU have
           now established a liaison with ISO/TC 211 in anticipation
           of the work on address standardization. I was wondering
           whether OASIS, specifically the CIQ, would be interested
           in doing the same?  The requirements for liaisons are
           listed in Part 1 of the ISO/IEC Directives (available on
           www.iso.org <http://www.iso.org/>).  OASIS already has a
           liaison with ISO/TC 154, Processes, data elements and
           documents in commerce, industry and administration, who
           in turn have a liaison with ISO/TC 211.  Thus the OASIS
           CIQ could comment on the address standardization work via
           those liaison relationships, but a liaison with ISO/TC
           211 would provide a direct link. If OASIS CIQ do want to
           establish a liaison with ISO/TC 211, it would be a good
           time to submit a liaison request it now, so that the
           liaison is in place, in case the preliminary work on
           address standardization starts later this year.

           Let me know if there is any interest, then I can direct
           you to our secretariat for the submission.

           Regards,
           Serena

           -------- Original Message --------
           Subject:    International address standard - next step
           Date:       Mon, 20 Apr 2009 21:55:57 +0200
           From:       Serena Coetzee <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>
           <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>
           Organization:       University of Pretoria
           To:         Serena Coetzee <scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>
           <mailto:scoetzee@cs.up.ac.za>
           References:         <49414433.5080603@cs.up.ac.za>
           <mailto:49414433.5080603@cs.up.ac.za>



           Dear all,
           Herewith a follow-up on my previous feedback email in December of last year (see below).
           After discussions with Antony Cooper, the ISO/TC 211 WG 7 convenor, as well as some of the other interested parties, it was decided to propose a preliminary work item (PWI) on "Address standardization requirements" in ISO/TC 211, also known as a "Stage 0 Project" (rather than proceeding with a proposal for a draft address standard). Below is an excerpt from the ISO/IEC Directives - Part 1, that describes such preliminary work.
                       "2.2 Preliminary stage
           2.2.1 Technical committees or subcommittees may introduce into their work programmes, by a simple majority vote of their P-members, preliminary work items (for example, corresponding to subjects dealing with emerging technologies), which are not yet sufficiently mature for processing to further stages. Such items may include, for example, those listed in the strategic plan, particularly as given under 2.1.2 d) giving a prospective view on emerging needs.
           2.2.2 The preliminary stage shall be applied for work items where no target dates can be established.
           2.2.3 All preliminary work items shall be subject to regular review by the committee. The committee shall evaluate the resources required for each such item.
           2.2.4 This stage can be used for the elaboration of a new work item proposal (see 2.3) and the development of an initial draft.
           2.2.5 Before progressing to the preparatory stage, all such items shall be subject to approval in accordance with the procedures described in 2.3."

           Such a "Stage 0 Project" would make the work on the address standard "official" so that delegates can get funding to attend the project meetings, but it would not yet be a commitment on the content (scope) or the way to proceed (re: different options listed in the Tsukuba presentation in the previous email).  Rather, it provides an opportunity for all interested parties to discuss and resolve these issues. In the best case scenario, the "Stage 0 Project" could be complete after a single meeting.

           During the upcoming ISO/TC 211 meeting week in Molde, Norway, there will be an informal meeting to discuss this proposal for a "Stage 0 Project". I will distribute a draft proposal via email before then. The meeting will take place on 27 May 2009 at 13:30. Details about the meeting week in Molde are available at http://www.isotc211.org/Molde/Molde.htm.  Note that registration for the meeting week closes on Friday, 24 April 2009.
           If all goes well, the proposal can be submitted for voting in ISO/TC 211 shortly after the Molde meetings (June/July 2009). If the vote is positive, a first official project meeting could be held at the next round of ISO/TC 211 meetings in November 2009.

           Regards,
           Serena Coetzee

           Department of Computer Science
           University of Pretoria
           Pretoria
           South Africa

           Tel: +27 12 420 2547
           Fax: +27 12 362 5188
           Mobile: +27 82 464 4294
               


           Serena Coetzee wrote:
           Hi all,

           I would like to share with you some feedback on the
           progress towards an international address standard,
           which I presented at the recent ISO/TC 211, Geographic
           information, meetings in Tsukuba, Japan.  The
           presentation to the ISO/TC 211 WG 7, Information
           communities, meeting is attached. Below a short summary:

           Addresses lie between geographical information (ISO/TC
           211, Geographic information), electronic business
           (ISO/TC 154, Processes, data elements and documents in
           commerce, industry and administration) and postal
           systems (Universal Postal Union, UPU), amongst others,
           and therefore quite a few stakeholders would be involved
           in an address standard. A number of these stakeholders
           have already been made aware of the ISO/TC 211
           initiative on address standards.  We have investigated
           ways of proceeding with an international address
           standard within ISO, the details are included in the
           presentation, but no decisions have been made. It is
           expected that the recently established ISO-UPU contact
           committee
           (http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1110)
           will also be involved. A possible initial suite of
           address standards could contain the following:
           Part 1: Reference model for address data
           Part 2: Terminology for addresses
           Part 3: Dictionary of postal address elements and
           country specific templates with precise descriptions of
           postal address formats (ie: UPU’s S42)
           Part 4: Standard on electronic exchange of name and
           address data (ie: UPU’s P14)
           Part 5: Whatever comes up next! e.g. address ontology,
           geo-referencing of addresses, revision of ISO 19112,
           Geographic information – Spatial referencing by
           geographic identifiers, etc.

           In anticipation of work on an international address
           standard, the Universal Postal Union (UPU) have
           submitted a liaison request to ISO/TC 211.  The request
           was received too late for voting at the plenary meeting
           in Tsukuba, but voting is currently taking place, with a
           deadline of 2 January 2009. The upcoming revision of ISO
           19112, Geographic information – Spatial referencing by
           geographic identifiers, should also be considered in
           relation to an international address standard.

           As a next step, I will develop and circulate a draft for
           the first part of an address standard. Anyone interested
           in contributing to the draft, contact me. The purpose of
           the draft is to start a discussion on the content for
           the first part of a suite of address standards. The
           draft will be sent out before the next ISO/TC 211
           plenary meetings, which are to be held in Molde, Norway,
           during the last week of May 2009. An informal meeting to
           discuss this draft address standard in Molde is a
           possibility.
           --            Regards,
           Serena Coetzee

           Department of Computer Science
           University of Pretoria
           Pretoria
           South Africa

           Tel: +27 12 420 2547
           Fax: +27 12 362 5188
           Mobile: +27 82 464 4294
             

           --            Regards,
           Serena Coetzee

           Department of Computer Science
           University of Pretoria
           Pretoria
           South Africa

           Tel: +27 12 420 2547
           Fax: +27 12 362 5188
           Mobile: +27 82 464 4294
               






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