Re: [ebxml-bp] Manual Operations in BPSS"

[Duane Nickull <dnickull@adobe.com>]

Can I please ask a  favour?  When posting messages to the BP list, 
please do not ask for email receipts to be returned.  Spammers use to 
employ this technique to build their lists in the early days and it 
annoys many of us on the lists having to respond (not to mention it 
wastes bandwidth).

Thank you.

Duane Nickull


> omething to think about for version 4?
>  
> I know at least 3 cases for the last 6 months when DOS attacks 
> shutdown big chunk of Internet operation on Eastern cost.
>  
> Zinovy
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: martin.me.roberts@bt.com <mailto:martin.me.roberts@bt.com>
>     To: zbarch@rcn.com <mailto:zbarch@rcn.com> ;
>     ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org <mailto:ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org>
>     Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:22 AM
>     Subject: RE: [ebxml-bp] Manual Operations in BPSS"
>
>      
>      
>     Zinovy,
>         We at BT have try to model exactly the same scenario.  The
>     presumption is that the BPSS is there to coordinate the state of
>     systems on both side of the partnership.
>      
>       To make this work in BPSS 1.01 we have had to create 'manual'
>     BusinessTransactionActivities that in effect run the BPSS
>     Transaction in reverse. 
>         e.g normal we would expect a customer to conform that a fault
>     has been cleared after we have fixed it.  However, if they confirm
>     ove rthe phone rather than the B2B we send a notification to them
>     telling their systems that we had done this.
>      
>         In the event of a massive failure there is currently no BPSS
>     command that is designed to synchronise the states of two
>     enterprises systems to align with manual transactions.  In our
>     latest Face 2 Face meeting we discussed the ideas around business
>     failures but this did not come up.
>      
>         Sorry
>      
>     Martin Roberts
>     xml designer,
>     BT Exact
>     e-mail: martin.me.roberts@bt.com
>     tel: +44(0) 1473 609785  clickdial
>     <http://clickdial.bt.co.uk/clickdial?001609785.cld>
>     fax: +44(0) 1473 609834
>     Intranet Site :http://twiki.btlabs.bt.co.uk/twiki
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: ZBarch [mailto:zbarch@rcn.com]
>         Sent: 16 February 2004 21:27
>         To: ebxml-bp@lists.oasis-open.org
>         Subject: [ebxml-bp] Manual Operations in BPSS"
>
>         Dear all!
>          
>         I have a practical question. Do we have a "Manual Operation"
>         in BPSS?
>         Example: We have 3 party collaboration and one party has a
>         major network failure (like we saw with American stock
>         exchange last
>         week). Can a party perform business transaction "manually", I
>         mean outside of ebXML (web services) - via phone, fax or US
>         Post mail and update
>         results later?
>          
>         Thanks,
>         Zinovy
>          
>

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