Re: [ekmi] [Fwd: MIP Kickoff Meeting Minutes]

["Benjamin Tomhave" <tomhave@secureconsulting.net>]

Hi Marc,

Bob and Tony, among others, are strong supporters of EKMI and have voiced
support for our continued work here. As such, it's important we reignite
our efforts. We need to get a couple more vendors to implement the
community spec and then get on to bigger better things. :)

Sun and IEEE P1619.3 are opposed to our work because they have their own
competing draft that they want to see published instead. Sun has made
their XML spec open-source and are proposing that it be adopted as the .3
XML standard. I believe that EKMI has been, or will be, dropped.

Proper representation of EKMI within KMIP will be important. I will
continue to be a vocal proponent. However, I do think it's best that I get
out of the way as liaison.

cheers,

-ben

On Mon, April 27, 2009 2:49 pm, Marc wrote:
> I did not interpret Landon's issues as anything towards you personally.  I
> don't know, maybe you and he have some history I am not aware of.  Landon
> said that he was "instructed" to abstain on any motions having to deal
> with the EKMI committee.  I don't know why and he wouldn't say who
> instructed him to do so.
> Oh well.
> I thought the meeting went fairly well.  I left for for the ending
> keynote, but stayed for the presentations after the meeting had ended.
> After the presentations were complete, I expressed my personal opinion
> that KMIP does not address a number of use cases for devices that use and
> consume keys, but many people in the room disagreed.  I also expressed my
> opinion that the "standards" that exist today need to start to really be
> "standards" and not niche solutions.  Again, my viewpoint was in the
> minority, but Bob and some others at least were open to discussion.
>
> Ben, I can be liason if you think that Landon will cause trouble.  I have
> no history with him or with Cisco on any standards work.
>
> -Marc
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Anil Saldhana [Anil.Saldhana@redhat.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 05:29 AM
> To: tomhave@secureconsulting.net
> Cc: ekmi@lists.oasis-open.org
> Subject: Re: [ekmi] [Fwd: MIP Kickoff Meeting Minutes]
>
>     Benjamin,
>    thanks for the email. I could not attend the KMIP kickoff yesterday
>  due to travel.
>
>  Since I am listed on the KMIP TC as a member (and so is Tim Bruce), we
>  can be
>  the liaisons.
>
>  Regards,
>  Anil
>
>  Benjamin Tomhave wrote:
>  > EKMI TC:
>  >
>  > The KMIP TC officially launched today. The meeting minutes have been
>  > posted and are available to the public (link below).
>  >
>  > I've been voted in as the liaison to the EKMI TC from the KMIP TC.
> While
>  > this may be ok in the short-term, I do have a potential concern as at
>  > least one individual on the KMIP TC holds strong negative sentiments
>  > towards me directly, as was represented by his vocal abstention from
>  > voting on the EKMI liaison in general, and on my role in particular.
>  >
>  > Toward that end, I'd like to open discussion to see if anybody from
> EKMI
>  > would be interested in joining KMIP and being put forward as the
> liaison?
>  > The main requirement is to be a member of both committees.
>  >
>  > I believe this role will be very important in the coming weeks. Sun is
>  > moving to position their XML key mgmt standard in both .3 and KMIP.
> I've
>  > been told that .3 has already agreed to adopt KMIP as their binary/wire
>  > format. KMIP is also looking at KeyProv for secure key distribution.
>  >
>  > This all being said, certain leaders from KMIP have indicated strong
>  > support for this committee and the work undertaken. Now would be a good
>  > time to reinvigorate efforts. It's time to find vendors to implement
> the
>  > protocol so that we can move beyond the Community Draft phase.
>  >
>  > If someone is interested in the liaison slot, then let's discuss with
> the
>  > chair and work on the motion in KMIP. It may also be appropriate to
>  > nominate this person to be the EKMI rep to KMIP.
>  >
>  > Thank you,
>  >
>  > -ben
>  >
>  > ---------------------------- Original Message
> ----------------------------
>  > Subject: [kmip] Groups - KMIP Kickoff Meeting Minutes
>  > (kmipmeetingminutes.docx) uploaded
>  > From:    Subhash.Sankuratripati@netapp.com
>  > Date:    Fri, April 24, 2009 7:32 pm
>  > To:      kmip@lists.oasis-open.org
>  > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >
>  > The document named KMIP Kickoff Meeting Minutes
> (kmipmeetingminutes.docx)
>  > has been submitted by Subhash Sankuratripati to the OASIS Key
> Management
>  > Interoperability Protocol (KMIP) TC document repository.
>  >
>  > Document Description:
>  > Minutes from the kickoff meeting
>  >
>  > View Document Details:
>  > http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/document.php?document_id=32248
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