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Subject: RE: [election-services] OASIS EML TC MEETING
Indeed.
Communication to the media is a very important part of the elections in
Belgium, so for us (and me personally :) ) it would be beneficial if there
was a standard that we can use to communicate the results. However, the 520
schema as it is now is very flexible but still lacks some important aspects
(e.g. comparisons of results with list grouping, and lots and lots of
special attributes), I can explain this either tomorrow or in later mails).
So it might be better to create a new media schema and keep the 520 simple.
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Sven Rubben
IBM GBS
Tel: +32 2 225 27 47 BLS
+32 495 26 13 10 GSM
Mail: Sven Rubben/Belgium/IBM@IBMBE
sven_rubben@be.ibm.com
srubben@acm.org
"Paul Spencer"
<paul.spencer@boy
nings.co.uk> To
"David RR Webber \(XML\)"
06/18/07 05:31 PM <david@drrw.info>, "John Borras"
<johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
cc
"EML TC"
<election-services@lists.oasis-open
.org>, Bernard Van
Acker/Belgium/IBM@IBMBE, Sven
Rubben/Belgium/IBM@IBMBE
Subject
RE: [election-services] OASIS EML
TC MEETING
I think we need to be careful about overloading the 520. This was developed
originally to provide a simple result format for a "first past the post"
election so that this result can be used to calculate another result (for
example, using the d'Hondt algorithm). Communication to media was initially
outside the scope of EML. This is not to say that we should continue to
exclude this if there is a demand. We just need to be aware that we may be
better off developing a new schema so that we do not lose the original
purpose of the 520.
Regards
Paul
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From: David RR Webber (XML) [mailto:david@drrw.info]
Sent: 18 June 2007 15:52
To: John Borras
Cc: EML TC; Bernard Van Acker; Sven Rubben
Subject: RE: [election-services] OASIS EML TC MEETING
Sven,
Sounds good. I've also been working on something here in USA that I'm
hoping will be publicly available shortly.
What I found was the secret was to use XSLT to render the 510/520 content
into the format they prefer visually. The underlaying details in the XML
conform to the 510/520 v5 schemas. The new CountMetric is very powerful
too in supplying ad hoc needs to media/auditors.
BTW - since we are on the subject - I've had a request to create a new 530
Statistics schema. This would be modelled closely on the 510 - but
exclude the candidate/proposal elements - since it is purely vote
statistics about attendence and votes at each district and county level.
Seems like we may be able to combine your experience into this new 530?
John of course is rightly going to say the door is closed on additions to
v5 - but what I'm seeing is the 530 would be a draft we can work on over
the next few months and field test it with data to fine tune the model and
use cases.
Thanks, DW
"The way to be is to do" - Confucius (551-472 B.C.)
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [election-services] OASIS EML TC MEETING
From: John Borras <johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
Date: Mon, June 18, 2007 9:48 am
To: Sven Rubben <sven_rubben@be.ibm.com>
Cc: EML TC <election-services@lists.oasis-open.org>, Bernard Van Acker
<bernard_vanacker@be.ibm.com>
Sven
We should be able to give you time during tomorrow's teleconference call.
Sounds very interesting.
John
Sven Rubben <sven_rubben@be.ibm.com> wrote:
Hi,
If you guys could spare a few minutes, I could say a couple of words
about
the Belgium Elections that happened on June 10th. We used the 520 to
distribute the results to the VRT (Flemish public TV). It was a heavily
customized version, so it might be interesting to exchange some ideas
about
how the media works in the different countries and what they expect from
the EML messages they receive.
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Sven Rubben
IBM GBS
Tel: +32 2 225 27 47 BLS
+32 495 26 13 10 GSM
Mail: Sven Rubben/Belgium/IBM@IBMBE
sven_rubben@be.ibm.com
srubben@acm.org
John Borras
o.co.uk> To
EML TC
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Subject
[election-services] OASIS EML TC
MEETING
Further to yesterday's e-mail please find below details of the
teleconference numbers for our TC meeting on 19th.
1. Call one of the following MeetingPlace phone numbers:
From the AMERICAS region dial:
1-888-967-2253 or
1-650-607-2253
From the APAC region dial:
1800 222 712 (Australia toll-free)
800 9491 2777
61 2 8817 6100
From the EUROPE region dial:
44 118 924 9000
2. Enter the Meeting ID 108982 followed by the # key
3. If the organizer has not started the meeting you will be:
a. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key
b. Placed in the waiting room on music hold until the organizer
starts the meeting.
If the organizer has started the meeting you will be:
a. Asked to enter the Meeting Passcode 123456 provided to you by the
organizer
b. Asked to speak your name followed by the # key
Any problems please contact call me on my mobile.
Regards
John
m. +44 (0)7976 157745
John Borras wrote:
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:08:56 +0100 (BST)
From: John Borras
Subject: EML v5 PUBLIC REVIEW COMMENTS
To: EML TC
The Public Review period for EML v5 has now closed and attached is a note
of the comments received. All bar one have been raised by TC members and
there have been exchanges on the TC mailing lists over recent weeks. For
those who have not followed the trails the e-mails are available on the
TC
website.
We need to review these comments and agree the disposition of each of
them
at our next TC meeting, which to remind you is set for 19th June at 14.00
GMT (that's 15.00 London, 16.00 Brussels, 10.00 Washington DC). I will
notify you of the teleconference number in due course. Depending on how
we choose to deal with these comments will determine which stage in the
OASIS approval process we follow next.
Please take time to review these comments in advance of the meeting and
let us know your views in advance as this will save time on the call.
Regards
John
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