RE: [election-services] Re: EML AUDIT PROGRESS (EML 510)

["Zelechoski, Peter" <pzelechoski@essvote.com>]

I don't like the idea of rejected or uncounted for tracking undervotes
or blank votes.  Most jurisdictions where I have been keep track of
votes even if they are null votes -- they like to show how many chose to
submit a vote to not vote if you will.

We do need to track ballots separately from votes -- vote for 3 means
there are 3 valid votes allowed and you can vote for less (say 2) but
that undervote should show up as one valid ballot and 2 valid votes plus
one blank vote.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Webber [mailto:david.webber@oracle.com] 
Sent: 2010-11-23 10:26 AM
To: Neal McBurnett
Cc: Joseph Lorenzo Hall; John Borras; EML TC
Subject: Re: [election-services] Re: EML AUDIT PROGRESS (EML 510)

Neal,

The other approach is using the existing RejectedVotes and 
UncountedVotes and the ReasonCode to track blank ballots and overvotes.

DW

On 11/22/2010 7:21 PM, Neal McBurnett wrote:
> Our audit in Boulder has gone very nicely.  My ElectionAudits software
> now supports Kaplan-Markov audits with strict error bounds.  I've also
> collected a bunch of ideas on audit reporting from others in the US
> and sent them on to Joe.
>
> I'm glad to see more concrete proposals for EML and P1622 from NIST
> and a timeline.
>
> The next P1622 meeting will probably be the week of Dec 13th.
>
> Can we schedule an election-services meeting the week before
> that, and give Joe and I more concrete incentive to get something
> together for the committee?
>
> Note that I'm still looking for some examples of how to label blank
> votes and overvotes in a 510 report via the current EML spec, which is
> confusing to me in that regard.  E.g. is there a way to use the
> BallotStatus property in a 510?  If so, if someone could just adjust
> my current example to properly label them I'd apprecate it:
>
>   http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/electionaudits/eml510-example.xml
>
> As I indicated in my earlier comments, I expect we still need to find
> a precise way to report the number of "contest ballots" in a
> vote-for-more-than-one contest, but perhaps the exisitng scheme can
> work for "vote for 1" contests.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neal McBurnett                 http://neal.mcburnett.org/
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 06:14:01PM -0500, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:12 AM, John Borras<johnaborras@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>>> Hi Guys
>>>
>>> Now that the USA elections are out of the way, have you been able to
make
>>> any progress on the audit requirements for EML v6.1 please?
>> I have been slammed with research this entire month and it doesn't
>> look like it will get better soon.  I know Neal has also been wrapped
>> up in CO post-election auditing work, although he may have more time
>> going forward than I do.  I'll touch base with Neal soon. best, Joe
>>
>>> IEEE/P1622 and NIST are planning to hold a workshop in February to
>>> essentially decide which standard to pursue for their solution for
the
>>> UOCAVA project and we will be invited to demonstrate how EML could
fit the
>>> bill.  NIST want a P1622 draft standard to be available by June 2011
for use
>>> in the next presidential elections so their work is now gaining real
>>> momentum and I would want EML to be there in the forefront of it
all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do we need to have a conference call to discuss progress, issues,
next steps
>>> etc?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> John
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
> generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
> https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php
>

-- 
David Webber
Oracle Public Sector
301-693-1000


---------------------------------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe from this mail list, you must leave the OASIS TC that
generates this mail.  Follow this link to all your TCs in OASIS at:
https://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/portal/my_workgroups.php