RE: HumanMarkup Reservations

["Bullard, Claude L (Len)" <clbullar@ingr.com>]

It will help if you:

 

Review the existing schema work.

 

Look at the samples created on the Yahoo list

 

Look at the repository of work at the Yahoo server.

 

and comment on those.

 

Things such as RDF and XML Schemas are just tools. 

The two domains that were more seminal than any other

were semiotics and hermaneutics.   Looking at it from

the schemas perspective, we need a set of types for

enabling the application language designer to work

with.  In a sense, that makes a HumanML schema

something like a toolkit.   The genre language idea

is one application of that.

 

If we are still jockeying, we are dead.  We just

spent some months getting our arms around this.

If we are about to open all that up again, then

the scoping will kill us as everyone piles on.

 

Len
http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard

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-----Original Message-----
From: cagle@olywa.net [mailto:cagle@olywa.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:06 AM
To: Rex Brooks; Sean B. Palmer; humanmarkup-comment@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: Re: HumanMarkup Reservations

Rex,

 

I have to admit that I'm reaching that not so young category myself very quickly, but I think there are a few points here that would probably be worth establishing:

 

1) Domains. We'll be jockeying on this one until the Sept 17 meeting, but I'm trying to figure out exactly which domains HumanML is most specifically targeting. So far I've seen passing mention to:

• RDF & Relational Mapping
• Avatars (X3D-H-Anim)
• Agents (?)
• Psychological Vocabularies
• Cultural Anthropology & Art

What other domains are we looking at in this respect? I look at this from the standpoint that we could be choosing as a charter to create maps to "everything else" and then get so bogged down in this task that the whole becomes an exercise in academic absurdity.

 

2) Repositories. Mailing Lists have slightly less transience than most other forms of e-mail because you can archive and digest it, but it has some significant limitations for long term memory.  It may behoove us to set up a repository of ideas, a place where we can both put up potential application concepts and can also start pulling together instances of other activity that may have direct or indirect bearing on HumanML.

 

3) Media. Just a quick note, but this WG is likely to be the subject of intense media interest. When Carol made a press release about it yesterday, it ended up on Slashdot, and spawned a MAJOR discussion. I'm going to try to cull some of the more interesting commentary there, but the point I wished to raise is that this group is going to end up being more visible to the layman than almost anything else that either OASIS or the W3C is doing at this point simply because it is (more or less) understandable in lay terms. Everyone has their own idea about what goes into describing a human being, while the discussion about business processes or alternative schemas are for the most part too esoteric for all but a small group of people to be really interested in.

 

Okay, back to your regularly scheduled program.