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Subject: RE: markup race
http://www.balzan.it/english/pb1999/cavalli/paper.htm A good overview. He discusses the relationship of culture and genetic diversity. Modeling this would be of interest. Some databases that collect information on humans do include DNA support (for example, it is required for sex offenders in some venues). Medical records collect such information as well. An application domain such as anthropology or archaeology might require it. I agree that HumanML is open to critique and should be critiqued from every angle. This is sound and it is scholarly. The scholars must accept that there are different theories with varying proofs for their application. These theories interest HumanML in that HumanML may provides means to model these and means for such models to be shared. Such models may provide data that can be used by other domains through the use of visualization, for example, avatars that begin as unadorned, faceless, cultureless models (essentially, what an H-anim model is) and then through modeled behavioral interaction, accumulate cultural diversity. The first question would be to create markup capable of gathering the right details and the genetic markup would likely come from a medical domain. We'd need to find that. The cultural domains we can handle. These paragraphs appear releavant to Volker's intent: "I don't like the word "race" because it corresponds to old subdivisions that are inconsistent with genetic reality and unjustifiable by a rational classification. Moreover, there is no real use of such classifications and, what is worse, there is always an associated racist flavor. Darwin had already recognized the difficulty of a rational classification of races in what is almost a perfect continuum, and noted the futility of racial classifications, given the enormous variety of numbers and definitions of races which different taxonomists have traditionally offered, from two to more than one hundred. The current trend to increased admixture can only make races even less clear. It is important, however, to note that current classifications depend on external appearance, which is due to very few genes (hereditary factors) affecting skin, hair and eye color. Body and face size and shape may involve a few more genes but, like the former, are the result of an adaptation to climate (including diet and customs, which obviously also depend to a large extent on climate). Common belief in the "existence" of races must depend on local uniformity of skin color in different environments: dark in tropical climate, brown at some distance from the equator, light brown in south Europe, reaching the highest degree of whiteness in the southern Baltic. To a very superficial examination, races exist, in the sense that some groups of individuals are distinguishable and relatively uniform for a few superficial traits. That there exist "pure" races is pure myth, generated by the fact that most Europeans are white, subsaharan Africans black, many Asians brown, and a few further traits may help to distinguish more finely the geographic origin of individuals. There is no equal uniformity under the skin. Genetic differences among populations or races, however defined, are small or trivial compared with those within populations. Below the superficially uniform veneer, there are no "pure races". Moreover, cultural differences among ethnic groups have been frequently believed to be of genetic origin, but the reality is that most of them disappear after two or three generations of assimilation in another culture, and if some last longer it is because some cultural traits are more highly conserved than others. Distinguishing nature from culture is extremely difficult for most behavioral traits, but cultural differences are often strong in appearance and labile at the test of time. Some students of twins have, I think, been betrayed by their enthusiasm for genetics, beginning with the classical example of Sir Cyril Burt, whose aberrations have been exposed. I am not pressing a blanket condemnation of all students of twins, but I think the marvel that some of them have expressed at the fact that a few identical twins reared apart prefer the same brand of cigarettes should not be taken very seriously. Another myth which dominated nineteenth century Europe and continued in the present century is that interracial hybrids are inferior, and that race admixture is to be avoided at all costs. The degree of genetic differentiation in the human species is so small that it is impossible that racial admixture is genetically dangerous. One might expect, on the contrary, that its absolute opposite, hybrid vigor, is likely to hold, but a greater degree of genetic differentiation might be necessary for hybrid vigor to be manifest, except for outcrosses of individuals from highly inbred populations. There are, however, a few recent examples of very successful interracial hybrids. They cannot be too many, because there still is a real social handicap confronting interracial hybrids in most societies, which limits their numbers and success. I consider racism one of the scourges of humanity. There are very few social environments in which it is absent, and racism is certainly not only a European or white social disease. My beloved African Pygmies are considered animals by most of their Bantu neighbors, who think themselves superior because of the superiority of an agricultural economy, however primitive, compared with that of hunter-gatherers. The Saami should not be called Lapps, as they usually are, because the name "Lapps" means "no good" and they are thus called by their proximate neighbors because they do not practice agriculture. I find culture, not genetics, distinguishes people. And every culture has merits, but they give very different chances of economic and educational success. Is racism innate in human people? I don't know, but I believe a strong educational effort to eradicate racism is one of the most urgent needs. It may be impossible to totally eliminate it, but it should be possible the reduce the criminality with which it is constantly associated. " Len http://www.mp3.com/LenBullard Ekam sat.h, Vipraah bahudhaa vadanti. Daamyata. Datta. Dayadhvam.h
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