Re: [legalxml-courtfiling] JXDDS Person Object

[John Messing <jmessing@law-on-line.com>]

At one point we had a long and protracted discussion about why party did not work and actor was better. This was a long, long time ago. My recollection is there was a concern that attorney's were not parties, witnesses were not parties, and that the term party was too limiting for the myriad types of relationships that CourtFiling was trying to address. I MIGHT be able to find some of these, but I have since upgraded computers and may have lost the discussions. They would have occurred around the time of the Winter 1999 Phoenix F2F meeting. Rich Himes may be able to help on reconstructing this, if appropriate.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "John M. Greacen" <john@greacen.net>
Date:  Fri, 20 Sep 2002 14:58:50 -0600

>Dear colleagues:
>
>I have been in further discussions with Mark Kindl and John Wandelt at
>GTRI about the person object and possible ways to accommodate Court
>Filing's need for an element that accommodates persons, organizations
>and things.
>
>They have suggested that an actor object could be created which allowed
>the use of either the person, organization, or property object.  They
>have also
>suggested that this object might be more easily understood and accepted
>if it were called "party" rather than "actor."
>
>I attach a PowerPoint diagram of the possible "actor" element that we
>have been discussing.  I would appreciate getting your comments on it.
>
>Can anyone think of another instance -- other than party -- in which we
>need to be able to accept persons and organizations or persons,
>organizations and things?  It seems to me that witnesses are invariably
>individuals, even when they are testifying as agents or officers of an
>organization.  "Party" would seem to work for contracts as well as for
>court cases.  In sum, what do you think of the idea of "party" as the
>name of the object instead of "actor?"
>
>I look forward to your ideas and suggestions.
>
>--
>John M. Greacen
>Greacen Associates, LLC.
>18 Fairly Road
>Santa Fe, NM  87507
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