Hi gang,
So it sounds like Mondays are our day, starting Monday April 28th.
Same time as before, 8am PT / 11am ET / 5pm CET / midnght Japan
Any objections?
Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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I agree with Malte -- this is a perfect time for me, except the 21st.
-Mike
Mike Paciello
Cell: +1.603.566.7713
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From: Malte.Timmermann@Sun.COM [mailto:Malte.Timmermann@Sun.COM]
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:34 AM
To: Peter Korn
Cc: mpaciello@paciellogroup.com; 'Richard Schwerdtfeger';
office-accessibility@lists.oasis-open.org; 'Pete Brunet'
Subject: Re: [office-accessibility] Fw: ODF Accessibility SC
Minutes - April 10
That date/time would be perfect! :)
Probably I can't make it next Monday, but in general that
time would be much appreciated.
Malte.
Peter Korn wrote, On 18.04.08 01:04:
Hi Mike, all,
8am PT / 11am ET on Mondays work for me. Shall we look to have our
next meeting on Monday April 21st?
Regards,
Peter Korn
Accessibility Architect,
Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Rich -
Monday's work for me.
Peter?
Mike Paciello
Cell: +1.603.566.7713
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Minutes - April 10
Mike,
The only time left for me then would be Monday's at
10am Central
or 11am Eastern. The problem is synching with Japan
and PST unless
we went to an evening call which I am not that crazy about.
Peter, how does this work for you on Mondays?
Rich
Rich Schwerdtfeger
Distinguished Engineer, SWG Accessibility Architect/Strategist
Chair, IBM Accessibility Architecture Review Board
blog: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/schwer
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Thanks Pete.
BTW folks -- Both Thursday and Friday mornings are bad for me.
Again, I don't want to stand in the way of progress for the
committee. These happen to be two mornings during the
week when I
have standing meetings between 9:00 am - 12:30 pm EST. Before
and/or after, I can attend.
regards,
Mike
Mike Paciello
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Subject:* [office-accessibility] Fw: ODF Accessibility
SC Minutes
- April 10
Resending minutes with one edit: changed action item
8f from Pete
to Janina (Janina was the original assignee for that action
item.)
1) Rollcall/Scribe - Attending: Rich, Peter K, Steve,
Malte, Pete
B - Regrets: Janina, Chieko Hiro - Scribe Pete B
2) Piror minutes approved
3) New meeting time - Mike P not present, Thursday bad
for him -
Let's try for 10 am on Fridays
4) Training guidelines - deferred until larger group on call
5) 1.2 spec work items
- Current schedule likely to move out about a month
a) How does ODF do language tagging of a range of text? Font
attributes? And how best to tag a string as "Grade 2 English
Braille", vs. "music Braille in German".
*** Action item Rich - investigate how ODF does
language tagging
for a range of text, e.g. how to handle language switching
b) Hiro - Write proposed modification to 8.1.1 to add
caption-id
for table, and 9.2.15.2 to include tables - <ref
name="common-draw-caption-id-attlist"/>
*** Rich will check with Hiro to see if he has
proposed language
c) Hiro to provide more information related to table
headers (from
http://www.oasis-open.org/apps/org/workgroup/office-accessibility/ema
il/archives/200711/msg00007.html)
*** Pending Hiro
d) Address David's concern that headings were made
available in an
easy to discern way. ... H2s followed by H1s etc. He
obtained that
structure from an additional file. Came back in an OOo
update, and
that information was no longer available. Was Dave relying on
optional attributes that are no longer there, or did
OOo break the
spec.?
*** Action item Peter K - check to see if this is a
bug in OpenOffice
e) Assign team members
*** wait for Hiro to attend
6) 1.1 Guidelines work items - Peter K sent in text
and is waiting
for response from TC
*** no response from TC yet
7) 1.2 Guidelines work items
a) Rich to find deadlines for ODF 1.2; also to verify
whether TC
would like to see our 1.2 guidelines doc delivered at same time
(in same "bundle") as 1.2 spec.
*** pending
b) Pete Brunet: Provide guidelines as to how to supply tracking
change information to ATs. Malte & Pete & others have
been looking
at how to expose document revision information in platform a11y
APIs, so they can be exposed via IAcc2 and ATK/AT-SPI. Are
converging on a specification.
*** MT we don't tell implementers how to use an a11y
API - PK we
could add a checklist showing implementers what they
need to expose
*** Action item Peter K - create text for this
8) Miscellaneous Action items
a) [unassigned] Can OOo be a good codebase for Marc to
start from
for the Icon (which is ARM based)
*** not an issue for this group, remove from action items
b) Pete B to set up a meeting at CSUN around the revision API
*** this didn't happen - but good progress has been
made on email
c) Should guidelines provide any direction on animations?
*** unassigned - missed covering this action item
during the meeting
d) Modify next version of accessibility guidelines to ensure
applications respond to system font and color settings.
*** Action item Peter K to develop text
e) Add wording to the next revision of the accessibility
guidelines to allow control of the animation rate of
images in a
presentation
*** Action item Rich S and Dave P
f) Modify accessibility guidelines to state how common field
attributes (section 6.7 of the ODF 1.2 spec.) should
be supplied
to the AT. The field attributes would indicate whether
something
were a boolean, gregorian date, etc.
*** Action item Janina
g) Create new wording for reload delay (section 3.13.2) which
would allow user agents to control the reload delay
and to state
the WCAG requirements for content refreshing to
prevent seizures.
We need wording to provide control over flashing Here are some
related links
http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-WCAG20-20070517/#general-thresholddef
http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20-20060427/#seizure-d
oes-not-violate
*** Rich to work with Janina
h) Pete Brunet: Provide guidelines as to how to supply tracking
change information to ATs.
*** A new interface is being developed in the Open A11y groups
i) Provide wording in the to address dynamic,
asynchronous updates
There are several topics in the specs related to "asynchronous
automatic update" of contents or values. Automatic
updates should
be carefully presented to assistive technologies through
accessibility APIs. Documents are becoming more dynamic- async
updates - some examples: linked tables, database ranges,
scripting, text sections, DDE connections.
*** Action item Hiro
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